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May 5 2014 09:23pm
Inb4 2013 lol. Fuck you all.


I was going to do a “perfect” scenario mock for each team’s first three rounds but I decided against that plus walterfootball pretty much aced that already here: http://walterfootball.com/draft2014goals.php . So, here is what I do not want to see teams do. Basically I’m going to go through the first round (and the first picks for the Skins and Colts in round 2) and explain what I absolutely do not want to see each team do. Maybe a specific player I do not want to see them grab for one reason or another or maybe just a position. I thought this might be a little more fun instead of just basically doing a repeat of what walt has there and with the “perfect” scenario idea, everyone is going to have their own opinion, especially for their own teams and that idea has been done before. I haven’t really seen this before.

1. Houston (2-14) – Do not draft Jadeveon Clowney. He’s not a good fit for their system. I know people said the same thing about Von Miller in Denver but it is not the same situation. Aside from that, Clowney is a bum and is primed to be one of the biggest busts in history. Factor in the depth that this draft has with pass rushers and the Texans need for other positions, it’s not worth it. If they want to get a QB, they have their pick of the entire group. If they want to get a dynamic piece and wait on a QB, they should draft Watkins. If they want to draft an upgrade for their defense that actually fits, go Mack. If they want to be smart they’ll trade down and get some extra picks and then take a QB in the first that they like but do not draft Clowney.

2. St. Louis - from Washington (3-13) – Do not draft Jadeveon Clowney or Khalil Mack. I don’t understand why the Rams would do this. Obviously they want to trade (at least it seems obvious) but if that’s not the case then it has to be Watkins, Robinson or Matthews. They need a more reliable LT than Long and they need a true #1 receiver because Tavon isn’t one. They have a very very talented pass rush unit already and if they do want depth/more talent in it, that’s what this draft is all about, receivers and pass rushers. Wasting this pick on one of the pass rushers makes absolutely no sense to me. Draft Watkins, give Bradford a true fucking weapon and let the kid finally shine (Bradford that is).

3. Jacksonville (4-12) – Do not draft a quarterback here. The Jaguars have Chad Henne, he’s not the answer I understand that but he allows them to draft one of the top 3 (Clowney, Mack or Watkins), all of which will fit into Jacksonville very well. Then they can either trade back into the first or wait until their second to get the QB but for now, avoid the QB.

4. Cleveland (4-12) – Do not run out of time on the draft clock. There is no pick that the Browns could make here that would be a bad move imo. OK, if they took a fucking punter here then yeah, but I mean any logical move. Watkins, either OT, whatever defensive piece, a QB, even Evans if Watkins is gone. Shit, if they went with a corner to pair with Haden or maybe even a safety I wouldn’t be too upset. I mean it’d be a stretch for any of the DBs and I’d probably be a little surprised but I wouldn’t be disappointed with the move. Browns are in a good spot.

5. Oakland (4-12) – Do not stay at this pick. Do absolutely everything possible to move down. Oakland has only 4 picks in the top 200, they have to find someone to trade with. I’m almost positive they will be able to find someone to trade with because Clowney, Mack, Watkins, Robinson, Matthews (or Lewan, whoever some may view as the #2 OT) and/or the QBs will be available and someone wants them. With Atlanta likely snatching up Clowney, Mack or one of the OTs, someone will want to jump ahead of them if the right prospect is still available.

6. Atlanta (4-12) – Do not draft defense here. Unless something spectacular happens are Clowney or Mack are available here, just draft an OT (Robinson, Matthews or Lewan) and sure up that offensive line. This draft is very deep in DL talent and Atlanta can afford to sit on the position some.

7. Tampa Bay (4-12) – Don’t draft a quarterback. I know new coaches and/or front office usually results in a new QB but not at this pick. In all likelihood Mike Evans should be available and that’s who the Buccs need to draft here. If he is not then Tampa is kind of fucked lol. QB is the option then I guess but they can sit on a QB until the second and get a better talented prospect here.

8. Minnesota (5-10-1) – Do not draft defense here. A recent smokescreen came out saying the Vikings want to go defense here and while I know the Vikings defense is pretty weak, they need to draft that QB here. Bortles or Teddy will likely be available here, sure up the QB and then address everything else.

9. Buffalo (6-10) – Do not draft Eric Ebron. In the end, he’s a fucking tight end. An oversized wide receiver. He’s not the best blocker and while we’ve seen what a dominate TE can do (Graham, Gronk) and Ebron is a physical freak, he’s not worth the #9 pick. This pick should be either a DL piece, secondary or Zack Martin.

10. Detroit (7-9) – Do not draft a pass rusher. I know Detroit wants one but there’s so much talent at the position, they can address another need here. Odell Beckham, either corner or safety would be a much better choice here and then someone like Kyle Van Noy in the second would be ideal but going with a pass rusher (likely Anthony Barr) at this point wouldn’t be getting the most bang for your buck per pick imo.

11. Tennessee (7-9) – Do not forget to turn off the stove. Much like the Browns, there isn’t a lot the Titans could do here that I would frown on. Trading down, OL, defensive pieces for their 3-4, secondary, WR, QB, barring any ridiculous reaching, the Titans can’t really do a lot to waste this pick.

12. New York Giants (7-9) – Do not draft a safety or wide receiver. I’ve seen some reports that the Giants are considering a safety because of Will Hill’s suspension but it’s not worth it here in the first. WR doesn’t make a lot of sense to me here either because they have much more pressing needs and this draft is deep with WRs. Xnoz, don’t be surprised when you see the LT pick here. If Lewan or Matthews is available,

13. St. Louis (7-9) – Do not take a tackle. But Randy, you said they should take a tackle at 2, why not take one here if they didn’t then? Well, the big 3 (Robinson, Lewan and Matthews) are likely gone at this point and there’s a high chance Martin is gone too. Even if Martin is there, I don’t want to see the Rams take him. I’d rather them grab a piece for their secondary. Either corner or safety holds more value here for the Rams than a tackle outside of the big 3. Of course if one of them is here they have to take them but if they aren’t, work on that secondary.

14. Chicago (8-8) – Do not draft offense. This is a no brainer but as long as the Bears draft defense, they’ll be fine by me.

15. Pittsburgh (8-8) – Do not draft OL.The Steelers’ OLine is not as bad as many believe. Beachum is actually a solid LT and Gilbert on the right side isn’t bad. Inside they have DeCastro and Foster at guards and Pouncey should be back from his injury. Even if Puncey isn’t 100%, they shouldn’t take any inside pieces here. With the amount of defensive talent available in the first, the Steelers need to go defense here and help that aging unit they have. Unless they’re absolutely in love with a wide receiver, I can’t imagine them doing anything other than defense.

16. Dallas (8-8) – Don’t draft a third round talent. Last year the Boys took Travis Frederick with their first round pick after trading down. Now, while he did perform very well, it’s no stretch of the imagination to say the Cowboys could have got him later (also let’s not forget Escobar and Williams with their next 2 picks, 2 more third round talents [I guess Williams was OK since it was the third round but it emphasizes my point]). Hopefully if good ‘ol Jerry decides to reach for a player he’ll at least get the most out of that guy like he has with Frederick.

17. Baltimore (8-8) – Do not draft Eric Ebron. I think the Ravens have all but taken Ebron off their board except for as a last resort. They have Pitta and Daniels so there is absolutely no need to spend this pick on a tight end when they can go WR, tackle, defense, trade, etc.

18. New York Jets (8-8) – Do not draft Geno Smi…..do not sign Michael Vi……uhhhh shit. I kid, I really don’t have any do not’s for the Jets here. They can go in any direction that isn’t DL and improve their roster. Just be sure to draft talent and not pure need.

19. Miami (8-8) – Do not draft Cyrus Kouandjio or JuWaun James. I don’t give two popcorn farts what the Dolphins think, they better not waste their pick on these guys. They can draft a better talent here and trade up in the second if they’re worried about Kouandjio or James. They can trade down here and draft one of them in the late first but do not trade up in the first or draft either of these fucks at 19. I feel like it’s all smoke so Martin will fall to them but it won’t work, these are too big of reaches.

20. Arizona (10-6) – Do not draft Dee Ford. For the love of god do not draft this fuck boy. OK, now that that’s out of the way, if in fact the Cardinals do draft him I won’t be too upset. I won’t be thrilled but I mean he fits the scheme perfectly and he does have talent I just don’t want him on the team. If Barr, Hageman, Pryor, Dennard, Fuller, Roby, Ealy, Carr, Bridgewater, Bortles, Manziel, Garoppolo, McCarron, Cooks, Verrett, Nix, Tuitt, Beckham, Martin, Gilbert, Ebron and Shazier are all gone then fine, I’ll settle for Ford. Outside of that, just nope.

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21. Green Bay (8-7-1) – Do not draft a tight end. I’ve seen Ebron and ASJ to the Packers in the first quite a bit. While I do like the picks, it isn’t the best the Packers can do (plus ASJ could possibly be avai in the second anyway). There’s actually quite a bit of TE talent in this draft but once the top 5ish guys are gone, the talent is all but gone so they do need to snag one in the second or third but not here. Get that safety that they so desperately need or ILB if Pryor and HaHa are gone, and worry about TE later.

22. Philadelphia (10-6) – Do not draft a wide receiver. There is so much talent at WR the Eagles can sit on the position. Unless someone falls of course they should use this pick for a corner, safety or pass rusher, all of which should have some prospect available. Ideally the Eagles should trade up to get the receiver they want. That I’m fully on board for but drafting one hear (again barring someone sliding) isn’t the right move.

23. Kansas City (11-5) – Do not stay here. The Chiefs have more needs than an 11-5 team should. They need a WR, a TE, guard, tackle, safety, corner and ILB. And they aren’t just “oh they could stand to upgrade those positions” no, they freaking NEED those positions. There will undoubtedly be teams trying to trade back into the first round and if the Chiefs can acquire an extra pick or two and drop into the top of the second, they need to do it.

24. Cincinnati (11-5) – Do not draft a QB. Many are saying the Bengals will snatch up one of the potentially falling QBs. While I don’t doubt they’ll draft a QB, I highly doubt they’ll spend their first rounder on one and they shouldn’t. Dalton isn’t done yet, get bolster that defense some and give Dalton a little more time. They have one of the best receivers in the game, a young and very talented running back, solid OL and an average defense. Boost that D unit and see how far Dalton can get you in the next year or two and then move on if it’s not panning out.

25. San Diego (9-7) – Do not draft a wide receiver. The Chargers of all teams know that you can find great receivers later than the first round as they found Kennan Allen in the third last year and this year’s draft is FAR superior at WR than last year. They don’t exactly have anything outside of Allen but they have other needs to address before that so they can sit and wait on the WR position and fill another need with a top talent here in the first and then snatch up a receiver in the mid rounds.

26. Cleveland - from Indianapolis (11-5) – Do not draft a blind kid and then play heavy music when he runs through the line, missing everyone while flailing his arms. If you don’t understand that, you don’t visit this section enough. Much like before, I think Cleveland is in a great spot in this draft. Ideally I’d say Cleveland should trade this pick to someone wanting to get into the back end of the first and acquire more day 2 picks. As long as they draft talent, they’ll be fine.

27. New Orleans (11-5) – Do not draft a pass rusher. The Saints have some young and promising talent at DE and OLB. They do not need to spend their first on one of those spots even though many believe they do. I do believe they need to draft someone eventually, but day 2 will be fine for that. Here they need an OT, WR or secondary. I’d like to see them trade up for one of the big 3 LT’s but that likely won’t happen. Trading up for Sammy would be cool as I’ve predicted and broken down before and I do believe it’d be worth it but staying put and not taking a pass rusher is fine too.

28. Carolina (12-4) – Do not fuck this up. The Panthers are primed to dominate the NFC South but they cannot fuck up this draft. They need to get receivers, a corner and a tackle. If they can find a willing trade partner, trade down and get more picks. Day 2 talent can land them 2 starting WRs, a starting corner and a LT that would at least fight for the starting job on their roster. If the Panthers muff this draft, they’re going to slide out of contention quickly.

29. New England (12-4) – Do not draft anyone who is not a DT. Seriously, there is going to be so much DT talent that falls, the Patriots are going to land a stud at one of their biggest needs. Of course if they all get snatched up somehow then drafting a non-DT is acceptable but I can’t imagine any scenario where that happens.

30. San Francisco (12-4) – Do not stay here. Seriously, they have so many fucking picks, just trade up, get one of the top corners or wide receivers (likely Evans or Beckham) and improve that goddamn secondary or receiving corps already. Everyone wants to trade down, not many want to go up so it should be rather easy for the Niners to move up.

31. Denver (13-3) – Do not say something clever or funny here. Idk, I don’t have a do not for the Broncos here that isn’t blatantly obvious. Mosley will likely be available, fill their one true need and walk into the playoffs. They can go Mosley, Su’a-Filo or Shazier (doubtful Shazier will be available but if he is, he has to be the pick) and be just fine. Corner or safety will be acceptable too but just take Mosley, he’s going to fall, he’s got tons of potential but teams will be scared to draft him (as I am) so he should fall right into the Bronco’s lap. Just draft Mosley.

32. Seattle (13-3) – Do not draft defense. I know many want the Seahawks’ defense to get even better but don’t do it here. Help that offensive unit out first then spend the luxury picks on defense. They need some interior linemen, another WR and a TE wouldn’t hurt. Joel Bitonio seems to be the popular pick and he’d be excellent for Seattle. But don’t waste the first rounder on defense.



34. Washington (3-13) – Do not trade up. I see a lot of people saying the Skins should trade into the end of the first round. Why? Why give up extra picks when they don’t need to. There is going to be a solid ILB, WR or Corner available here so stay put and start filling some holes.




59. Indianapolis (11-5) – Do not draft a pass rusher. I feel like a broken record with the do not draft a pass rusher and do not draft a wide receiver. Even though Indy’s first pick is so late they can still get some solid talent here and get a young but still talented pass rusher on day 3. They need secondary help at corner and safety and need interior line help. I’d use this pick to snatch up a center because that will likely have more talent available than guard and then let that rookie center play guard next to Costa at center and then transition the rookie to center when he’s a bit more polished (much like what Atlanta has done with Konz).




2014 Post-Combine Mocks:

2014 v1.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70276439&f=204
2014 v2.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70330426&f=204
2014 v3.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70377396&f=204
2014 v4.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70419210&f=204
2014 v5.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70454553&f=204
2014 v6.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70552751&f=204
2014 v7.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70650248&f=204

2014 Pre-Combine Mocks:

2014 v1.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68890136&f=204
2014 v2.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68924563&f=204
2014 v3.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68967249&f=204
2014 v4.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69010879&f=204
2014 v5.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69056177&f=204
2014 v6.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69101987&f=204
2014 v7.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69165845&f=204
2014 v8.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69235121&f=204
2014 v9.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69285391&f=204
2014 v10.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69468393&f=204
2014 v11.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69541086&f=204
2014 v12.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69649564&f=204
2014 v13.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69715922&f=204
2014 v14.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69804282&f=204
2014 v15.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69884204&f=204
2014 v16.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70065320&f=204
2014 v17.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70114829&f=204
2014 v18.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70223516&f=204

2013/14 Draft: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70680620&f=204

2014 Reverse Mock: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70171605&f=204

2014 Lottery Mock: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70631649&f=204

2014 Perfect Matches: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70358172&f=204

2014 Team Needs: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70154753&f=204

2014 Sleepers: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70595706&f=204

2014 Predictions: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70603604&f=204

2014 Mid-Season Big Board: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69198359&f=204
2014 End of Season Pre-Combine Big Board: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70120112&f=204
2014 Post Combine Big Board: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70316056&f=204
2014 Final Big Board: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70519763&f=204


2014 Position Rankings Pre-Combine:

QB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69847793&f=204
HB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69861320&f=204
FB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69913671&f=204
WR: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69871600&f=204
TE: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69931929&f=204
OT: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69949549&f=204
OG: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69967274&f=204
C: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69891036&f=204

4-3 DE: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69974520&f=204
3-4 DE: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69985919&f=204
DT/NT: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69919859&f=204
4-3 OLB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70004254&f=204
3-4 OLB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70009927&f=204
ILB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69882592&f=204
CB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70046196&f=204
S: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69902916&f=204
K/P: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70046263&f=204


Previous Year Mocks:

2013 Final Mock: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67113792&f=204
2013 Draft Analysis: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67228920&f=204

2012 Draft Analysis: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=62247355&f=204
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May 5 2014 09:25pm
This will likely be my last thing before the first round and I do my live mock. I might sneak in a 7 rounder before but I doubt it.
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I can agree and a majority of vikings fans are reallystrong about wanting a defensive player at 8, but I don't see any value fitting what we need and while I believe you take BPA there really isn't a BPA for us at 8. If we go Defense I fully believe we trade back in the late teens to do so where we would take Mosley, Dennard, Gilbert or Barr. But I am really pulling for teddy :o I wrote an essay about my dream scenario for the vikings I think to be pretty realistic
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May 5 2014 09:34pm
Quote (Randolph @ May 5 2014 10:25pm)
This will likely be my last thing before the first round and I do my live mock. I might sneak in a 7-incher tonight before but I doubt it.


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Jesus I had to fucking go back and look to see if I actually typed that or not. :wacko:
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Jesus I had to fucking go back and look to see if I actually typed that or not.  :wacko:




happy cinco de mayo, buddy :lol:
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2013 lol
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26. Cleveland - from Indianapolis (11-5) – Do not draft a blind kid and then play heavy music when he runs through the line, missing everyone while flailing his arms. If you don’t understand that, you don’t visit this section enough. Much like before, I think Cleveland is in a great spot in this draft. Ideally I’d say Cleveland should trade this pick to someone wanting to get into the back end of the first and acquire more day 2 picks. As long as they draft talent, they’ll be fine.



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May 5 2014 10:16pm
Do not draft defense at 8?

sorry randy but you are high.
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