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Apr 30 2014 12:04am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Apr 24 2014 08:10am)
Next mock you should pretend like both this year's draft class AND last year's are available...and see how that changes things.  Where would the ROY stack up against Clowney?


The premise here is that all of the players from the 2013 draft are also in the pool of players available in the 2014 draft. I am going to work under the idea that the 2013 players are still on their current teams.

Example: The Cardinals drafted Tyrann Mathieu in the third round last year. He is their starting FS. If the Texans take him first overall that does not mean the Cardinals now have no starting FS, it just means the Texans and Cardinals have him. I know I know but it’s just the easiest way to do this and won’t turn it into a cluster fuck like the all current players draft was.

2013 players will be depicted by an asterisks (*) for anyone who might not know them all by name.

For anyone wondering, there are 31 2014 players and 33 2013. That's more even than I expected. Thought there'd be more 2013 guys because we've seen what they can do but the 2014 class is so much better head to toe that they can put up a fight on potential alone.


Round 1
1. Houston (2-14) – Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
2. St. Louis - from Washington (3-13) – Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
3. Jacksonville (4-12) – Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
4. Cleveland (4-12) – Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
5. Oakland (4-12) - *Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
6. Atlanta (4-12) - Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
7. Tampa Bay (4-12) - Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida
8. Minnesota (5-10-1) - *Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU
9. Buffalo (6-10) – Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina
10. Detroit (7-9) - *Keenan Allen, WR, California
11. Tennessee (7-9) - *Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
12. New York Giants (7-9) - *Kiko Alonso, LB, Oregon
13. St. Louis (7-9) - *Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
14. Chicago (8-8) - *Tyrann Mathieu, FS, LSU
15. Pittsburgh (8-8) - Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
16. Dallas (8-8) - *Alec Olgetree, LB, Georgia
17. Baltimore (8-8) - *Kenny Vaccaro, SS, Texas
18. New York Jets (8-8) - *Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
19. Miami (8-8) - *D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
20. Arizona (10-6) - *Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
21. Green Bay (8-7-1) - HaHa Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama
22. Philadelphia (10-6) - Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma
23. Kansas City (11-5) - Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
24. Cincinnati (11-5) - Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
25. San Diego (9-7) - Anthony Barr, DE/OLB, UCLA
26. Cleveland - from Indianapolis (11-5) - *Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
27. New Orleans (11-5) - *Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
28. Carolina (12-4) - *DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
29. New England (12-4) - *Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
30. San Francisco (12-4) - Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
31. Denver (13-3) - *Larry Warford, G, Kentucky
32. Seattle (13-3) - *Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M



Round 2
1. Houston (2-14) – Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
2. Washington (3-13) - Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State
3. Cleveland (4-12) - *Eric Reid, FS, LSU
4. Oakland (4-12) - Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
5. Atlanta (4-12) - *Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
6. Tampa Bay (4-12) - *Kyle Long, G, Oregon
7. Jacksonville (4-12) - *Jonathan Cooper, G/C, North Carolina
8. Minnesota (5-10-1) - Calvin Pryor, SS, Louisville
9. Buffalo (6-10) - Xavier Su'aFilo, G, UCLA
10. Tennessee (7-9) - *Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
11. New York Giants (7-9) - Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
12. St. Louis (7-9) - *Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
13. Detroit (7-9) - Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
14. Pittsburgh (8-8) - Ra'Shede Hageman, DE/DT, Minnesota
15. Dallas (8-8) - Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
16. Baltimore (8-8) - Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
17. New York Jets (8-8) - *Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
18. Miami (8-8) - Zack Martin, OT/G, Notre Dame
19. Chicago (8-8) - Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
20. Arizona (10-6) - Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU
21. Green Bay (8-7-1) - *Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
22. Philadelphia (10-6) - *Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia
23. Cincinnati (11-5) - *Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
24. San Francisco - Kansas City (11-5) - Marqise Lee, WR, USC
25. San Diego (9-7) - Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
26. New Orleans (11-5) - Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State
27. Indianapolis (11-5) - *Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut
28. Carolina (12-4) - *Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
29. San Francisco (12-4) - C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama
30. New England (12-4) - *Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
31. Denver (13-3) - *Manti Te’o, ILB, Notre Dame
32. Seattle (13-3) - *Chance Warmack, G, Alabama




Some guys who did not make it into the first 2 rounds that are worth mentioning.

2013
Mike Glennon, QB, North Carolina State
Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
Matt Elam, FS, Florida
EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State

2014
Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State
Joel Bitonio, G/OT, Nevada






2014 Post-Combine Mocks:

2014 v1.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70276439&f=204
2014 v2.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70330426&f=204
2014 v3.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70377396&f=204
2014 v4.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70419210&f=204
2014 v5.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70454553&f=204
2014 v6.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70552751&f=204
2014 v7.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70650248&f=204

2014 Pre-Combine Mocks:

2014 v1.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68890136&f=204
2014 v2.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68924563&f=204
2014 v3.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68967249&f=204
2014 v4.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69010879&f=204
2014 v5.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69056177&f=204
2014 v6.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69101987&f=204
2014 v7.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69165845&f=204
2014 v8.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69235121&f=204
2014 v9.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69285391&f=204
2014 v10.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69468393&f=204
2014 v11.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69541086&f=204
2014 v12.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69649564&f=204
2014 v13.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69715922&f=204
2014 v14.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69804282&f=204
2014 v15.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69884204&f=204
2014 v16.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70065320&f=204
2014 v17.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70114829&f=204
2014 v18.0: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70223516&f=204

2014 Reverse Mock: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70171605&f=204

2014 Lottery Mock: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70631649&f=204

2014 Perfect Matches: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70358172&f=204

2014 Team Needs: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70154753&f=204

2014 Sleepers: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70595706&f=204

2014 Predictions: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70603604&f=204

2014 Mid-Season Big Board: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69198359&f=204
2014 End of Season Pre-Combine Big Board: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70120112&f=204
2014 Post Combine Big Board: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70316056&f=204
2014 Final Big Board: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70519763&f=204


2014 Position Rankings Pre-Combine:

QB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69847793&f=204
HB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69861320&f=204
FB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69913671&f=204
WR: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69871600&f=204
TE: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69931929&f=204
OT: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69949549&f=204
OG: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69967274&f=204
C: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69891036&f=204

4-3 DE: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69974520&f=204
3-4 DE: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69985919&f=204
DT/NT: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69919859&f=204
4-3 OLB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70004254&f=204
3-4 OLB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70009927&f=204
ILB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69882592&f=204
CB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70046196&f=204
S: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69902916&f=204
K/P: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70046263&f=204


Previous Year Mocks:

2013 Final Mock: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67113792&f=204
2013 Draft Analysis: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67228920&f=204

2012 Draft Analysis: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=62247355&f=204
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Apr 30 2014 12:08am
Also, for anyone who cares, I want to get the "perfect" 3 rounds thing done by next week but idk if I'll have time. It takes a little longer than most things. Then I'll of course do a live round 1 on Thursday. Friday and Saturday I'll just be kicking back, watching the draft, and doing nothing (already took the time off work B) not that that is anything special, just took off Friday and Saturday so that's my weekend) ANYWAY, got off the main road there a bit, on Fri/Sat I'll just be watching so if anyone has any questions on any players, I'll be in the thread that someone has up answering any questions for anyone who has them for me.

And then finally, a week or so after the draft, I'll have my full evals up. We'll see though, that takes up a bit of time. I seem to be able to just do a division a night easily enough so we'll see.
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Apr 30 2014 12:10am
i think it might be time for a real hobby randolph im worried about you
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Apr 30 2014 12:23am
weird

This post was edited by monstarr on Apr 30 2014 12:24am
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Apr 30 2014 12:37am
Cyprien is better than all those Safeties. easy
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Apr 30 2014 12:41am
Quote (Bluth @ Apr 29 2014 11:10pm)
i think it might be time for a real hobby randolph im worried about you


And why is that exactly? I spend an hour or 2 a week on mocks/draft stuff (excluding the 5-10 minutes it may have took each day to post the jsp draft polls) and it's something I enjoy. Then I spend an hour or so a day for a weekish breaking it down. Throw in maybe another 2 hours a week total during the season catching up on highlights/prospects/etc there's maybe 5 total hours a week spent on this. How is that something to be worried about? You play video games? Jerk off? I bet you get 5 hours a week worth of that.


Quote (Hako @ Apr 29 2014 11:37pm)
Cyprien is better than all those Safeties. easy


You should know I of all people had the biggest man crush on Cyprien last year and I do love him but as far as SS's go, Vaccaro out performed him last year and Pryor has loads of potential. Just not as much demand for the position so he didn't make the cut. But, going Cyprien over Pryor wouldn't be the end all, it'd still be completely reasonable.

This post was edited by Randolph on Apr 30 2014 12:42am
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Apr 30 2014 12:44am
Interesting how much stronger this draft class projects to be than the previous one.
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Apr 30 2014 12:48am
Quote (Randolph @ Apr 30 2014 12:41am)
And why is that exactly?  I spend an hour or 2 a week on mocks/draft stuff (excluding the 5-10 minutes it may have took each day to post the jsp draft polls) and it's something I enjoy.  Then I spend an hour or so a day for a weekish breaking it down.  Throw in maybe another 2 hours a week total during the season catching up on highlights/prospects/etc there's maybe 5 total hours a week spent on this.  How is that something to be worried about?  You play video games?  Jerk off?  I bet you get 5 hours a week worth of that.




You should know I of all people had the biggest man crush on Cyprien last year and I do love him but as far as SS's go, Vaccaro out performed him last year and Pryor has loads of potential.  Just not as much demand for the position so he didn't make the cut.  But, going Cyprien over Pryor wouldn't be the end all, it'd still be completely reasonable.


im worried about how long that response took randolph if you ever need to talk call me
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Apr 30 2014 12:49am
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Apr 29 2014 11:44pm)
Interesting how much stronger this draft class projects to be than the previous one.


I didn't notice it until after I was done but it seems like they moved in chunks. A few 2014's then a few 2013's, then 14's, then 13's, not a lot of 13, 14, 13, 14, more chunks.

Quote (Bluth @ Apr 29 2014 11:48pm)
im worried about how long that response took randolph if you ever need to talk call me


Why is the length of that response something to worry about? If I type 130+ words a minute and that had 106 words in it according to http://www.wordcounter.net/ then it took me less than a minute to type. Do you ever type anything online? How long does it take you to type? You probably take just as long to reply to comments on d2jsp.org

EDIT/PS: I have no idea how many words a minute I type bee tee dubs.

Also going to bed. Night buttercup. :wub:

This post was edited by Randolph on Apr 30 2014 12:53am
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Apr 30 2014 12:55am
Quote (Randolph @ Apr 30 2014 12:49am)
I didn't notice it until after I was done but it seems like they moved in chunks.  A few 2014's then a few 2013's, then 14's, then 13's, not a lot of 13, 14, 13, 14, more chunks.



Why is the length of that response something to worry about?  If I type 130+ words a minute and that had 106 words in it according to http://www.wordcounter.net/ then it took me less than a minute to type.  Do you ever type anything online?  How long does it take you to type?  You probably take just as long to reply to comments on d2jsp.org

EDIT/PS: I have no idea how many words a minute I type bee tee dubs.

Also going to bed.  Night buttercup.  :wub:


can you please calm down im worried about you
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