Quote (BardOfXiix @ Apr 24 2014 08:10am)
Next mock you should pretend like both this year's draft class AND last year's are available...and see how that changes things. Where would the ROY stack up against Clowney?
The premise here is that all of the players from the 2013 draft are also in the pool of players available in the 2014 draft. I am going to work under the idea that the 2013 players are still on their current teams.
Example: The Cardinals drafted Tyrann Mathieu in the third round last year. He is their starting FS. If the Texans take him first overall that does not mean the Cardinals now have no starting FS, it just means the Texans and Cardinals have him. I know I know but it’s just the easiest way to do this and won’t turn it into a cluster fuck like the all current players draft was.
2013 players will be depicted by an asterisks (*) for anyone who might not know them all by name.
For anyone wondering, there are 31 2014 players and 33 2013. That's more even than I expected. Thought there'd be more 2013 guys because we've seen what they can do but the 2014 class is so much better head to toe that they can put up a fight on potential alone.
Round 11. Houston (2-14) – Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
2. St. Louis - from Washington (3-13) – Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
3. Jacksonville (4-12) – Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
4. Cleveland (4-12) – Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
5. Oakland (4-12) - *Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
6. Atlanta (4-12) - Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
7. Tampa Bay (4-12) - Blake Bortles, QB, Central Florida
8. Minnesota (5-10-1) - *Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU
9. Buffalo (6-10) – Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina
10. Detroit (7-9) - *Keenan Allen, WR, California
11. Tennessee (7-9) - *Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
12. New York Giants (7-9) - *Kiko Alonso, LB, Oregon
13. St. Louis (7-9) - *Cordarelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
14. Chicago (8-8) - *Tyrann Mathieu, FS, LSU
15. Pittsburgh (8-8) - Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
16. Dallas (8-8) - *Alec Olgetree, LB, Georgia
17. Baltimore (8-8) - *Kenny Vaccaro, SS, Texas
18. New York Jets (8-8) - *Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
19. Miami (8-8) - *D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
20. Arizona (10-6) - *Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
21. Green Bay (8-7-1) - HaHa Clinton-Dix, FS, Alabama
22. Philadelphia (10-6) - Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma
23. Kansas City (11-5) - Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
24. Cincinnati (11-5) - Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
25. San Diego (9-7) - Anthony Barr, DE/OLB, UCLA
26. Cleveland - from Indianapolis (11-5) - *Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
27. New Orleans (11-5) - *Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
28. Carolina (12-4) - *DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
29. New England (12-4) - *Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
30. San Francisco (12-4) - Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
31. Denver (13-3) - *Larry Warford, G, Kentucky
32. Seattle (13-3) - *Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
Round 21. Houston (2-14) – Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
2. Washington (3-13) - Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State
3. Cleveland (4-12) - *Eric Reid, FS, LSU
4. Oakland (4-12) - Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
5. Atlanta (4-12) - *Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
6. Tampa Bay (4-12) - *Kyle Long, G, Oregon
7. Jacksonville (4-12) - *Jonathan Cooper, G/C, North Carolina
8. Minnesota (5-10-1) - Calvin Pryor, SS, Louisville
9. Buffalo (6-10) - Xavier Su'aFilo, G, UCLA
10. Tennessee (7-9) - *Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
11. New York Giants (7-9) - Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
12. St. Louis (7-9) - *Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
13. Detroit (7-9) - Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
14. Pittsburgh (8-8) - Ra'Shede Hageman, DE/DT, Minnesota
15. Dallas (8-8) - Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
16. Baltimore (8-8) - Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
17. New York Jets (8-8) - *Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
18. Miami (8-8) - Zack Martin, OT/G, Notre Dame
19. Chicago (8-8) - Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
20. Arizona (10-6) - Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU
21. Green Bay (8-7-1) - *Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
22. Philadelphia (10-6) - *Jarvis Jones, DE/OLB, Georgia
23. Cincinnati (11-5) - *Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
24. San Francisco - Kansas City (11-5) - Marqise Lee, WR, USC
25. San Diego (9-7) - Kyle Fuller, CB, Virginia Tech
26. New Orleans (11-5) - Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State
27. Indianapolis (11-5) - *Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut
28. Carolina (12-4) - *Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
29. San Francisco (12-4) - C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama
30. New England (12-4) - *Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
31. Denver (13-3) - *Manti Te’o, ILB, Notre Dame
32. Seattle (13-3) - *Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
Some guys who did not make it into the first 2 rounds that are worth mentioning.
2013
Mike Glennon, QB, North Carolina State
Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
Matt Elam, FS, Florida
EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State
2014
Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State
Joel Bitonio, G/OT, Nevada
2014 Post-Combine Mocks:
2014 v1.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70276439&f=2042014 v2.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70330426&f=2042014 v3.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70377396&f=2042014 v4.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70419210&f=2042014 v5.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70454553&f=2042014 v6.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70552751&f=2042014 v7.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70650248&f=2042014 Pre-Combine Mocks:
2014 v1.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68890136&f=2042014 v2.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68924563&f=2042014 v3.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=68967249&f=2042014 v4.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69010879&f=2042014 v5.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69056177&f=2042014 v6.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69101987&f=2042014 v7.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69165845&f=2042014 v8.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69235121&f=2042014 v9.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69285391&f=2042014 v10.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69468393&f=2042014 v11.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69541086&f=2042014 v12.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69649564&f=2042014 v13.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69715922&f=2042014 v14.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69804282&f=2042014 v15.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69884204&f=2042014 v16.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70065320&f=2042014 v17.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70114829&f=2042014 v18.0:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70223516&f=2042014 Reverse Mock:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70171605&f=2042014 Lottery Mock:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70631649&f=2042014 Perfect Matches:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70358172&f=2042014 Team Needs:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70154753&f=2042014 Sleepers:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70595706&f=2042014 Predictions:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70603604&f=2042014 Mid-Season Big Board:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69198359&f=2042014 End of Season Pre-Combine Big Board:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70120112&f=2042014 Post Combine Big Board:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70316056&f=2042014 Final Big Board:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70519763&f=2042014 Position Rankings Pre-Combine:
QB:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69847793&f=204HB:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69861320&f=204FB:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69913671&f=204WR:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69871600&f=204TE:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69931929&f=204OT:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69949549&f=204OG:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69967274&f=204C:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69891036&f=2044-3 DE:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69974520&f=2043-4 DE:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69985919&f=204DT/NT:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69919859&f=2044-3 OLB:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70004254&f=2043-4 OLB:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70009927&f=204ILB:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69882592&f=204CB:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70046196&f=204S:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=69902916&f=204K/P:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=70046263&f=204Previous Year Mocks:
2013 Final Mock:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67113792&f=2042013 Draft Analysis:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67228920&f=2042012 Draft Analysis:
http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=62247355&f=204