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Mar 18 2013 09:13pm
1. I like the receiver, but I think I like Hopkins better.
2. How good is Reddick? Starter ready? I like the position pick.
3. Dont know anything about the player but we need a safety, even if we sign Ed Reed.
4. Dont mind the last two picks.
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Mar 18 2013 09:13pm
I bet Milliner is no longer on the Lions' radar with Quin, Houston, and Delmas signed/returning.

Eric Fisher or Luke Joeckel will be taken.
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Mar 18 2013 09:47pm
Quote (LetsG0Blue @ Mar 18 2013 11:13pm)
I bet Milliner is no longer on the Lions' radar with Quin, Houston, and Delmas signed/returning.

Eric Fisher or  Luke Joeckel will be taken.


Think about how sick our secondary would be if we took Milliner...

However I think that if Fisher is on the board he will be our guy.

I'd like to trade down to collect more picks if possible
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Mar 18 2013 10:45pm
29. New England (12-4) – David Amerson, S/CB, N.C. State

Yessir.

ADRIAN WILSON!!

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Think about how sick our secondary would be if we took Milliner...

However I think that if Fisher is on the board he will be our guy.

I'd like to trade down to collect more picks if possible


I would love it! But it most likely wont happen.
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Mar 18 2013 10:51pm
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I would love it! But it most likely wont happen.


It could. I've heard Milliner still tops the Lions' list even after the signings.

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Mar 19 2013 12:23am
I doubt if the Oakland franchise will spend a high draft pick on another question mark black quarter back just being honest
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Mar 19 2013 12:34am
still think the bears are going tackle w/ 2x serviceable-good tackles and no mlb?

i'm just not buying it. ogletree is an urlacher clone, and he'll be a bear if available @ 20.
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Quote (Randolph @ Mar 18 2013 09:19pm)
I was asked what resources I use. I use no resources that all of you don’t know already. I mainly do these off of my own thoughts and opinions about team needs and players. But, I also use specific people on twitter, espn, walterfootball, etc, nothing special.

Rate, hate, etc etc etc, can't wait to hear what you have to say.

OK, I’m using the draft order provided by WalterFootball.com
( http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2013.php )

I am not doing an analysis for every pick again until probably after the draft lol. If you want an explanation, please post and ask.

This mock was started before the Rams and Long came to an agreement so keep that in mind.



Round 1
1. Kansas City (2-14) – Sharrif Floyd, DE/DT, Florida
2. Jacksonville (2-14) – Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU
3. Oakland (4-12) – Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
4. Philadelphia (4-12) – Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
5. Detroit (4-12) – Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
6. Cleveland (5-11) – Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
7. Arizona (5-11) – Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
8. Buffalo (6-10) – Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
9. New York Jets (6-10) – Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
10. Tennessee (6-10) – Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
11. San Diego (7-9) – Jonathan Cooper, G/C, North Carolina
12. Miami (7-9) – Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
13. Tampa Bay (7-9) – Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
14. Carolina (7-9) – Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
15. New Orleans (7-9) – Bjoern Werner, DE/OLB, Florida State
16. St. Louis (7-8-1) – Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
17. Pittsburgh (8-8) – Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
18. Dallas (8-8) – Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
19. New York Giants (9-7) – Damontre Moore, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
20. Chicago (10-6) – D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
21. Cincinnati (10-6) – Kenny Vaccaro, FS, Texas
22. St. Louis - from Washington (10-6) – Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
23. Minnesota (10-6) – Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
24. Indianapolis (11-5) – Johnathan Hankins, NT, Ohio State
25. Minnesota - from Seattle (11-5) – Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
26. Green Bay (11-5) – Keenan Allen, WR, California
27. Houston (12-4) – Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
28. Denver (13-3) – Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State
29. New England (12-4) – DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
30. Atlanta (13-3) – Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
31. San Francisco (11-4-1) – Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International
32. Baltimore (10-6) – Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU



Round 2
1. Jacksonville (2-14) – Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
2. San Francisco - from Kansas City (2-14) – Margus Hunt, DE/DT, SMU
3. Philadelphia (4-12) – E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
4. Detroit (4-12) – Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
5. Cincinnati - from Oakland (4-12) – Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
6. Arizona (5-11) – Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee
7. Cleveland (5-11) – 2012 Josh Gordon
8. New York Jets (6-10) – Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
9. Tennessee (6-10) – Matt Elam, SS, Florida
10. Buffalo (6-10) – Matt Barkley, QB, USC
11. Miami (7-9) – Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
12. Tampa Bay (7-9) – Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
13. Carolina (7-9) – Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
14. New Orleans (7-9) – Bountygate
15. San Diego (7-9) – Kyle Long, OT/G, Oregon
16. St. Louis (7-8-1) – Eric Reid, SS, LSU
17. Dallas (8-8) – Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
18. Pittsburgh (8-8) – Manti Te’o, ILB, Notre Dame
19. New York Giants (9-7) – Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
20. Chicago (10-6) – Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
21. Washington (10-6) – Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
22. Minnesota (10-6) – Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
23. Cincinnati (10-6) – Alex Okafor, DE/OLB, Texas
24. Miami - from Indianapolis (11-5) – Sam Montgomery, DE, LSU
25. Green Bay (11-5) – Knile Davis, RB, Arkansas
26. Seattle (11-5) – Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
27. Houston (12-4) – Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina
28. Denver (13-3) – Jonathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia
29. New England (12-4) – David Amerson, S/CB, N.C. State
30. Atlanta (13-3) – Larry Warford, G, Kentucky
31. San Francisco (11-4-1) – Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
32. Baltimore (10-6) – Phillip Thomas, FS, Fresno State



Round 3
1. Kansas City (2-14) – Dallas Thomas, G/OT, Tennessee
2. Jacksonville (2-14) – Matt Scott, QB, Arizona
3. Detroit (4-12) – Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
4. Oakland (4-12) – Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
5. Philadelphia (4-12) – Brandon Williams, NT, Missouri Southern
6. Cleveland (5-11) – Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
7. Arizona (5-11) – Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut
8. Tennessee (6-10) – Cornelius Washington, DE, Georgia
9. Buffalo (6-10) – Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
10. New York Jets (6-10) – D.J. Swearinger, FS, South Carolina
11. Tampa Bay (7-9) – Jamie Collins, DE/OLB, Southern Miss
12. San Francisco - from Carolina (7-9) – Marc Anthony, CB, California
13. New Orleans (7-9) – J.J. Wilcox, SS, Georgia Southern
14. San Diego (7-9) – Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
15. Miami (7-9) – Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Louisiana
16. St. Louis (7-8-1) – Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
17. Pittsburgh (8-8) – Robert Woods, WR, USC
18. Dallas (8-8) – Barrett Jones, G/C/OT, Alabama
19. New York Giants (9-7) – Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
20. Miami - from Chicago (10-6) – Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
21. Minnesota (10-6) – Kiko Alonso, ILB, Oregon
22. Cincinnati (10-6) – David Bakhtiari, OT/G, Colorado
23. Washington (10-6) – T.J. McDonald, FS, USC
24. Indianapolis (11-5) – Tharold Simon, CB, LSU
25. Seattle (11-5) – Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
26. Green Bay (11-5) – Travis Frederick, G/C, Wisconsin
27. Houston (12-4) – Bacarri Rambo, FS, Georgia
28. Denver (13-3) – Duke Williams, SS, Nevada
29. New England (12-4) – Everett Dawkins, DT, Florida State
30. Atlanta (13-3) – Jelani Jenkins, OLB, Florida
31. San Francisco (11-4-1) – Vance McDonald, TE, Rice
32. Baltimore (10-6) – Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M



Round 4
1. Jacksonville (2-14) – Shawn Williams, SS, Georgia
2. Kansas City (2-14) – Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
3. Oakland (4-12) – Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn
4. Philadelphia (4-12) – Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
5. Minnesota - from Detroit (4-12) – Justin Pugh, G, Syracuse
6. Arizona (5-11) – Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
7. Cleveland (5-11) – Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
8. Buffalo (6-10) – Alvin Bailey, G, Arkansas
9. New York Jets (6-10) – Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State
10. Tennessee (6-10) – Tony Jefferson, FS, Oklahoma
11. Carolina (7-9) – Zeke Motta, FS, Notre Dame
12. New Orleans (7-9) – Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina
13. San Diego (7-9) – Leon McFadden, CB, San Diego State
14. Miami (7-9) – Zaviar Gooden, OLB, Missouri
15. Tampa Bay (7-9) – Montori Hughes, NT, Tennessee-Martin
16. St. Louis (7-8-1) – Trevardo Williams, OLB, Connecticut
17. Dallas (8-8) – John Simon, DE/OLB, Ohio State
18. Pittsburgh (8-8) – Robert Lester, SS, Alabama
19. New York Giants (9-7) – Dwayne Gratz, CB, Connecticut
20. Chicago (10-6) – Jon Bostic, ILB, Florida
21. Cincinnati (10-6) – Marquise Goodwin, WR/KR, Texas
22. Washington (10-6) – Nico Johnson, ILB, Alabama
23. Minnesota (10-6) – Will Davis, CB, Utah State
24. Indianapolis (11-5) – David Quessenberry, G/C/OT, San Jose State
25. Green Bay (11-5) – Ty Powell, OLB, Harding
26. Seattle (11-5) – Chris Faulk, OT, LSU
27. Houston (12-4) – Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati
28. Denver (13-3) – Mike Gillislee, RB, Florida
29. Tampa Bay - from New England (12-4) – Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech
30. Atlanta (13-3) – Da'Rick Rogers, WR, Tennessee Tech
31. San Francisco (11-4-1) – Brian Schwenke, C, California
32. Baltimore (10-6) – Brandon Jenkins, DE/OLB, Florida State



Round 5
1. Kansas City (2-14) – A.J. Klein, ILB, Iowa State
2. Jacksonville (2-14) – William Gholston, DE/DT, Michigan State
3. Philadelphia (4-12) – Devin Taylor, DE, South Carolina
4. Detroit (4-12) – Oday Aboushi, OT/G, Virginia
5. Seattle - from Oakland (4-12) – Hugh Thornton, G, Illinois
6. Cleveland (5-11) – Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas
7. Arizona (5-11) – Bruce Taylor, ILB, Virginia Tech
8. New York Jets (6-10) – Mike Glennon, QB, N.C. State
9. Tennessee (6-10) – Brian Winters, G, Kent State
10. Buffalo (6-10) – Chase Thomas, OLB, Stanford
11. New Orleans (7-9) – Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
12. San Diego (7-9) – Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State
13. Miami (7-9) – Xavier Nixon, OT, Florida
14. Tampa Bay (7-9) – B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary
15. Carolina (7-9) – Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin
16. St. Louis (7-8-1) – Shamarko Thomas, FS, Syracuse
17. Pittsburgh (8-8) – Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
18. Dallas (8-8) – Sanders Commings, S/CB, Georgia
19. New York Giants (9-7) – Ryan Otten, TE, San Jose State
20. Chicago (10-6) – Josh Boyce, WR, TCU
21. Washington (10-6) – Luke Marquardt, OT, Azusa Pacific
22. Minnesota (10-6) – Cooper Taylor, SS, Richmond
23. Cincinnati (10-6) – Rod Sweeting, CB, Georgia Tech
24. San Francisco - from Indianapolis (11-5) – Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State
25. Seattle (11-5) – Gerald Hodges, OLB, Penn State
26. Green Bay (11-5) – Nick Kasa, TE, Colorado
27. Houston (12-4) – Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia
28. Denver (13-3) – Brandan Bishop, FS, N.C.State
29. Washington - from New England (12-4) – Kenny Stills, WR, Oklahoma
30. Atlanta (13-3) – Jordan Hill, DT, Penn State
31. San Francisco (11-4-1) – Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois
32. Baltimore (10-6) – Tanner Hawkinson, OT, Kansas







Post-Combine Mocks:
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v2.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66745424&f=204


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Pre-Combine Player Rankings:
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RB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66443964&f=204
FB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66535281&f=204
WR: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66510186&f=204
TE: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66483178&f=204
OT: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66562032&f=204
G: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66548483&f=204
C: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66519688&f=204

DT/NT: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66457812&f=204
3-4 DE: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66495698&f=204
4-3 DE: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66495692&f=204
3-4 OLB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66495708&f=204
4-3 OLB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66495722&f=204
ILB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66571976&f=204
CB: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66470785&f=204
S: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66586683&f=204
K/P: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66595308&f=204


Wat. If for some sick twisted reason, the Chiefs were to NOT take Joeckel, why on earth would they take a D-Lineman?

In the last six drafts... four of the first round picks have been D Linemen... In fact, 3 of our last 5 first rounders have been D Linemen. How many of them have been worth a shit as D-Linemen? How many of them are even still with the Chiefs? How many can you even name? In this same span, the chiefs have spent 9x 1-3 round picks on D-Linemen (4x DTs, 5x DEs). Our line is still sketch. I strongly assure you that's a position the Chiefs are going to stay away from in the first round. We may go after someone like Brandon Williams in the 4th, but definitely not with the first overall.

I really think you oughta reconsider Joeckel, or any position OTHER than DL

This post was edited by ChiefBuzzin on Mar 19 2013 01:09am
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Barret Jones falling to the 3rd? Why did his draft stock plummet?
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