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Jan 17 2013 03:07am
I was asked what resources I use. I use no resources that all of you don’t know already. I mainly do these off of my own thoughts and opinions about team needs and players. But, I also use specific people on twitter, espn, walterfootball, etc, nothing special.

Rate, hate, etc etc etc, can't wait to hear what you have to say.

OK, I’m using the draft order provided by WalterFootball.com
( http://walterfootball.com/nfldraftorder2013.php )

I am not doing an analysis for every pick again until we're much closer to the draft lol. If you want an explanation, please post and ask.




Alright, before anyone busts a tit, here's the thought. Reid doesn't like the QBs up top, he trades a mid rounder and maybe something from next year for Foles so they don't need a QB now, at least not in the early round, for the Chiefs, but the Eagles do.


Round 1
1. Kansas City (2-14) – Jarvis Jones, OLB/DE, Georgia
2. Jacksonville (2-14) – Star Lotulelei, NT, Utah
3. Oakland (4-12) – Damontre Moore, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
4. Philadelphia (4-12) – Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
5. Detroit (4-12) – DeMarcus Milliner, CB, Alabama
6. Cleveland (5-11) - Bjoern Werner, DE/OLB, Florida State
7. Arizona (5-11) – Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
8. Buffalo (6-10) – Manti Te’o, ILB, Notre Dame
9. New York Jets (6-10) – Barkevious Mingo, DE/OLB, LSU
10. Tennessee (6-10) – Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
11. San Diego (7-9) – Johnathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
12. Miami (7-9) – Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
13. Tampa Bay (7-9) – Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
14. Carolina (7-9) – Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
15. New Orleans (7-9) – Jonathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia
16. St. Louis (7-8-1) – Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
17. Pittsburgh (8-8) – Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
18. Dallas (8-8) – Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
19. New York Giants (9-7) – Ezekiel Ansah, DE/OLB, BYU
20. Chicago (10-6) – Kevin Minter, ILB, LSU
21. Cincinnati (10-6) – Alex Okafor, DE/OLB, Texas
22. St. Louis - from Washington (10-6) – Matt Elam, S, Florida
23. Minnesota (10-6) – Keenan Allen, WR, California
24. Indianapolis (11-5) – Barret Jones, G/C/OT, Alabama
25. Seattle (11-5) – Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
26. Green Bay (11-5) – Terrance Williams, WR, Baylore
27. Houston (12-4) – Sam Montomery, DE/OLB, LSU
28. Denver (13-3) - Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
29. Baltimore (10-6) – Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
30. San Francisco (11-4-1) – Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
31. New England (12-4) – Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
32. Atlanta (13-3) – Bennie Logan, DT, LSU


Round 2
1. Jacksonville (2-14) – Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
2. Kansas City (2-14) – Da’Rick Rodgers, WR, Tennessee Tech
3. Philadelphia (4-12) – Jonathan Cooper, G/C, North Carolina
4. Detroit (4-12) – William Gholston, DE/DT, Michigan State
5. Cincinnati - from Oakland (4-12) – Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
6. Arizona (5-11) – Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
7. Cleveland (5-11) – Josh Gordon 2012
8. New York Jets (6-10) – Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
9. Tennessee (6-10) – Margus Hunt, DE/DT, SMU
10. Buffalo (6-10) – Matt Barkley, QB, USC
11. Miami (7-9) – DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
12. Tampa Bay (7-9) – Eric Reid, S, LSU
13. Carolina (7-9) – David Amerson, DB, N.C. State
14. New Orleans (7-9) – Bountygate
15. San Diego (7-9) – Dallas Thomas, OT/G, Tennessee
16. St. Louis (7-8-1) – Brennan Williams, OT, North Carolina
17. Dallas (8-8) – Bacarri Rambo, S, Georgia
18. Pittsburgh (8-8) – Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
19. New York Giants (9-7) – D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
20. Chicago (10-6) – Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
21. Washington (10-6) – Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
22. Minnesota (10-6) – Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
23. Cincinnati (10-6) – Tyrann Mathieu, DB, LSU
24. Miami - from Indianapolis (11-5) – Jesse Williams, NT, Alabama
25. Green Bay (11-5) – Joseph Randle, RB, Oklahoma State
26. Seattle (11-5) – Robert Woods, WR, USC
27. Houston (12-4) – Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers
28. Denver (13-3) – Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
29. Baltimore (10-6) – Oday Aboushi, OT, Virginia
30. San Francisco (11-4-1) – Marquess Wilson, WR, Washington State
31. New England (12-4) – Will Davis, CB, Utah State
32. Atlanta (13-3) – Stepfan Taylor, RB, Stanford


Round 3
1. Kansas City (2-14) – Logan Ryan, CB, Rutgers
2. Jacksonville (2-14) – Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
3. Detroit (4-12) – Tony Jefferson, S, Oklahoma
4. Oakland (4-12) – Kyle Long, OT, Oregon
5. Philadelphia (4-12) – T. J. McDonald, S, USC
6. Cleveland (5-11) – Carrington Byndom, CB, Texas
7. Arizona (5-11) – Larry Warford, G, Kentucky
8. Tennessee (6-10) – Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
9. Buffalo (6-10) – Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
10. New York Jets (6-10) – Jawan Jamison, RB, Rutgers
11. Tampa Bay (7-9) – Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
12. San Francisco - from Carolina (7-9) – Robert Lester, S, Alabama
13. New Orleans (7-9) – Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn
14. San Diego (7-9) – Travis Frederick, G/C, Wisconsin
15. Miami (7-9) – Tharold Simon, CB, LSU
16. St. Louis (7-8-1) – Chase Thomas, DE/OLB, Stanford
17. Pittsburgh (8-8) – Chris Faulk, OT, LSU
18. Dallas (8-8) – John Simon, DE, Ohio State
19. New York Giants (9-7) – Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State
20. Miami - from Chicago (10-6) – Jordan Reed, TE, Florida
21. Minnesota (10-6) – Jon Bostic, ILB, Florida
22. Cincinnati (10-6) – Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
23. Washington (10-6) – Kevin Reddick, ILB, North Carolina
24. Indianapolis (11-5) – Brandon Jenkins, DE/OLB, Florida State
25. Seattle (11-5) – Sean Porter, DE/OLB, Texas A&M
26. Green Bay (11-5) – Shawn Williams, S, Georgia
27. Houston (12-4) – Cobi Hamilton, WR, Arkansas
28. Denver (13-3) – Alvin Bailey, G, Arkansas
29. Baltimore (10-6) – Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M
30. San Francisco (11-4-1) – Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
31. New England (12-4) – Everett Dawkins, DT, Florida State
32. Atlanta (13-3) – Khaled Holmes, C, USC


Round 4
1. Jacksonville (2-14) – Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
2. Kansas City (2-14) – Mike Glennon, QB, N.C. State
3. Oakland (4-12) – Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
4. Philadelphia (4-12) – Ricky Wagner, OT, Wisconsin
5. Minnesota - from Detroit (4-12) – Philip Thomas, S, Fresno State
6. Arizona (5-11) – Landry Jones, QB, Oklahoma
7. Cleveland (5-11) – Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee
8. Buffalo (6-10) – Jamie Collins, DE/OLB, Southern Miss
9. New York Jets (6-10) – Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
10. Tennessee (6-10) – Duke Williams, S, Nevada
11. Carolina (7-9) – Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
12. New Orleans (7-9) – Travis Long, DE/OLB, Washington State
13. San Diego (7-9) – Jonathan Brown, OLB, Illinois
14. Miami (7-9) – Mike Gillislee, RB, Florida
15. Tampa Bay (7-9) – Jordan Hill, DT, Penn State
16. St. Louis (7-8-1) – Joseph Fauria, TE, UCLA
17. Dallas (8-8) – Zac Dysert, QB, Miami of Ohio
18. Pittsburgh (8-8) – Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois
19. New York Giants (9-7) – Denard Robinson, KR/WR/QB, Michigan
20. Chicago (10-6) – Alex Hurst, OT, LSU
21. Cincinnati (10-6) – Hugh Thorton, G, Illinois
22. Washington (10-6) – Hakeem Smith, S, Louisville
23. Minnesota (10-6) – E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
24. Indianapolis (11-5) – Le’Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State
25. Green Bay (11-5) – Dion Sims, TE, Michigan State
26. Seattle (11-5) – Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia
27. Houston (12-4) – David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado
28. Denver (13-3) – Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
29. Baltimore (10-6) – Micah Hyde, CB, Iowa
30. San Francisco (11-4-1) – Michael Buchanan, DE/OLB, Illinois
31. Tampa Bay - from New England (12-4) – Gerald Hodges, LB, Penn State
32. Atlanta (13-3) – Joe Kruger, DE/DT, Utah

Previous mocks:
v1.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65243377&f=204&o=0
v2.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65360987&f=204&o=0
v2.1 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65435021&f=204&o=0
v3.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65466957&f=204&o=0
v4.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65564883&f=204&o=0
v5.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65657494&f=204&o=0
v6.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65761210&f=204&o=0
v7.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65854525&f=204&o=0
v8.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=65940667&f=204&o=0
v9.0 - http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=66026530&f=204&o=0
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Jan 17 2013 03:08am
im starting to have my doubts about jarvis jones just because of his spinal stenosis

could be a von miller type player if hes healthy though

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Jan 17 2013 03:10am
Quote (kargus @ Jan 17 2013 02:08am)
im starting to have my doubts about jarvis jones just because of his spinal stenosis

could be a von miller type player if hes healthy though


In this scenario, I actually like Moore a lot more for the Jags than Star but Hako told me Star last time I went Jarvis first and he knows more about the Jags specifically than I do so went with that.

As for Jarvis, it's a concern but until workouts and the combine, we won't know much about it and he's the best player in the draft so we'll see.

Could easily be Star #1 overall though. Chiefs need a big, talented NT to eat up the middle and they've whiffed on enough of them lately.
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Jan 17 2013 03:11am
Quote (Randolph @ Jan 17 2013 03:10am)
In this scenario, I actually like Moore a lot more for the Jags than Star but Hako told me Star last time I went Jarvis first and he knows more about the Jags specifically than I do so went with that.

As for Jarvis, it's a concern but until workouts and the combine, we won't know much about it and he's the best player in the draft so we'll see.

Could easily be Star #1 overall though.  Chiefs need a big, talented NT to eat up the middle and they've whiffed on enough of them lately.


i could see luke joeckel going #1 if chiefs didnt have so many other needs
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Jan 17 2013 03:14am
Quote (kargus @ Jan 17 2013 02:11am)
i could see luke joeckel going #1 if chiefs didnt have so many other needs


I could too. He's such a hard player to mock in this scenario. I put him at Detroit and Cleveland and then second guessed it, thinking if they'd really do it or stay on defense. Of course the Cards would jump at that pick but if the Eagles don't take him, idk where he's going.

I do know that I am going to bed now, night buzzins.
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Jan 17 2013 03:16am
Wow, I'd draft Tyler Wilson in the late 3rd, even if Flacco gets paid--didn't stop SF from getting Kaep.

-though I guess SF didn't know what their QB situation was gonna be then.

-and i guess we don't either technically lol

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Jan 17 2013 03:16am
Quote (Randolph @ Jan 17 2013 03:14am)
I could too.  He's such a hard player to mock in this scenario.  I put him at Detroit and Cleveland and then second guessed it, thinking if they'd really do it or stay on defense.  Of course the Cards would jump at that pick but if the Eagles don't take him, idk where he's going.

I do know that I am going to bed now, night buzzins.


jags just need to get jarvis jones and tank next year for clowney

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Jan 17 2013 03:32am
Quote (kargus @ Jan 17 2013 01:16am)
jags just need to get jarvis jones and tank next year for clowney

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oh my word would i be in heaven as well. :drool:



IN real life, it's so hard to mock us a pick in general. Jones is my first choice, but we'll have to wait until how he checks out medically. Star is probably the 2nd best prospect in my eyes. DE has been a need for us and continues to be one, however our sack number is skewed due to our injuries at DE this past season. I think we're ok at DE talent wise, concerning the talent level that is coming out in this draft. Good talent but not great. I do like me sum Werner though ^_^ . A lot depends on if we continue to run a 4-3, or if we change to a 3-4.

I honestly feel it has to be Jones or Star at #2 overall. If we trade back then that opens up a whole new book. I wouldn't be against trading back one bit. I would like to go CB in the top of the 2nd round, but depending how the draft unfolds, that's completely up in the air also. We are in a pretty good position at the top of the 2nd, seeing as it's the 1st pick, it's basically a 1st rounder.
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Jan 17 2013 03:34am
Quote (Hako @ Jan 17 2013 03:32am)
oh my word would i be in heaven as well.  :drool:



IN real life, it's so hard to mock us a pick in general. Jones is my first choice, but we'll have to wait until how he checks out medically. Star is probably the 2nd best prospect in my eyes. DE has been a need for us and continues to be one, however our sack number is skewed due to our injuries at DE this past season. I think we're ok at DE talent wise, concerning the talent level that is coming out in this draft. Good talent but not great. I do like me sum Werner though ^_^ . A lot depends on if we continue to run a 4-3, or if we change to a 3-4.

I honestly feel it has to be Jones or Star at #2 overall. If we trade back then that opens up a whole new book. I wouldn't be against trading back one bit. I would like to go CB in the top of the 2nd round, but depending how the draft unfolds, that's completely up in the air also. We are in a pretty good position at the top of the 2nd, seeing as it's the 1st pick, it's basically a 1st rounder.


our secondary can be great if we could stay healthy and get any pressure on QBs
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Jan 17 2013 03:37am
Geno Smith with Chip Kelly.

Hmmmm..... I'm not 1000% against it, I just don't want my team hinging on Smith since I'm not that big a fan of his. Other 2 picks were fine. Ty Randy for the constant mocks.

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