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Jun 24 2018 10:28pm
Quote (PinataParty @ Jun 24 2018 08:32am)
are you a silver? if not smurfing and beating a kass doesnt mean anything.
would you try to play ap riven against talon/irelia/TF at your main rank?

i do agree that being better is more important but why bother putting that much work when you can just play meta champs and climb faster

i think thats what people are upset about right? not that nothing else works, just everything right now meta champs makes everything else so much easier


You won't climb faster playing meta champs than you will actively trying to improve at the fundamentals of the game.

You'll still get caught just as much, waste just as much time, farm just as poorly, etc

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 24 2018 10:28pm
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Jun 24 2018 10:34pm
Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ Jun 24 2018 03:20pm)
"Gold Funneling" has been around for a really long time. Dopa thinks it's a coincidence that it became "meta" in 8.10. It wasn't a coincidence that it coincided with the jungle nerfs of 8.10. Because jungle was gutted in 8.10 it's just now more often better to have a fed carry+second support over 2 carries( because the jungle "carry" is so weak) then it was in previous patches.

The bot lane meta has very little to do with the power of ADCs and everything to do with the fact people copy other players. With riot finally actually trying to make ADCs balanced pro teams have been asking their ADCs players learn other non-marksman champs, then the master/challenger players see that and copy it. Diamond players see this and copy it and within a few weeks everyone is doing it.

If you play for the meta as a silver 3 player you will be able to climb a bit. If you play like it doesn't matter you'll likely fall. If you keep picking Jinx into kill lanes you will lose LP it doesn't matter if you're challenger or Bronze 4. The meta effects you no matter your rank and this is a constant.
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It's a coincidence because it was already good to begin with. Already a competitively viable strategy.

And if you think a challenger Jinx can't climb against kill lanes in bronze you clearly underestimate the value of skill in League of Legends.

Also not playing meta doesn't mean "literally play anything anywhere"
It means you don't have to play Kai'Sa and Ezreal every game.

Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ Jun 24 2018 06:37pm)
To quote myself from before it became meta

Wow i guess someone predicted the mid/jungle "gold funneling" strat

Better luck next time guys


Taliyah support? Xin Zhao support? Graves support? Nocturne support? Nice prediction. Genius.
Also gold funneling has already been a major strategy since the start of League of Legends. Why do you think it's ADC+Support bot lane in the first place?

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 24 2018 10:37pm
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Jun 25 2018 01:11am
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You won't climb faster playing meta champs than you will actively trying to improve at the fundamentals of the game.

You'll still get caught just as much, waste just as much time, farm just as poorly, etc


Yep playing meta is a self-defeating advantage, the higher above your real skill level you try to climb the less it will help you. You will still have that one moment or sitation where skill is absolutely required to overcome and then it won't be enough and you'll lose the entire game, etc
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Jun 25 2018 09:51am
Out of curiosity were you having a conversation with apdo? If not I don't think he was agreeing with you, maybe you're agreeing with him 😉
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Quote (gOOk @ Jun 25 2018 09:51am)
Out of curiosity were you having a conversation with apdo? If not I don't think he was agreeing with you, maybe you're agreeing with him 😉


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Jun 25 2018 01:21pm
Quote (FroggyG @ Jun 25 2018 12:05pm)


"With you"

Don't try to make a smart remark when you can't even tell I'm referring to your title.
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Jun 25 2018 03:41pm
Quote (gOOk @ Jun 25 2018 11:21am)
"With you"

Don't try to make a smart remark when you can't even tell I'm referring to your title.


Does he really need to spell out "always nice when the best player agrees with my opinion"? Sounds like you're just trying to be an ass about a technicality that is easily inferred lol.
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Jun 25 2018 04:25pm
Quote (LightClaw @ Jun 25 2018 03:41pm)
Does he really need to spell out "always nice when the best player agrees with my opinion"? Sounds like you're just trying to be an ass about a technicality that is easily inferred lol.


Ending quotations go after the sentence.
HAHA! Got you! Don't try to make a smart remark when you can't punctuate properly!

This post was edited by FroggyG on Jun 25 2018 04:27pm
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Quote (FroggyG @ Jun 25 2018 06:25pm)
Ending quotations go after the sentence.
HAHA! Got you! Don't try to make a smart remark, when you can't punctuate properly!


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Jun 25 2018 04:40pm
no1 care, he said ur low elo
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