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Jun 24 2018 08:32am
Quote (FroggyG @ Jun 24 2018 01:50am)
Apdo is talking about his level of play. I can beat a Kassadin in silver with AP Riven. Meta becomes more important as you climb as people understand the game more. In terms of NA solo queue it probably never becomes more important than just playing what you're good at though. Also, read below.



Empty statements are pointless. Why even bother?



You can't say he doesn't understand and then not elaborate. I would love to hear your explanation of why he's wrong and you're not.

When I say (and maybe him too) meta doesn't matter it doesn't mean it has 0 effect on everything. It means that you can play non-meta and still hit challenger, therefore you can't blame meta for your problems. If you can't climb it's because you lack skill.

That's why Dopa is saying "you can win regardless of meta if you play well"


are you a silver? if not smurfing and beating a kass doesnt mean anything.
would you try to play ap riven against talon/irelia/TF at your main rank?

i do agree that being better is more important but why bother putting that much work when you can just play meta champs and climb faster

i think thats what people are upset about right? not that nothing else works, just everything right now meta champs makes everything else so much easier

This post was edited by PinataParty on Jun 24 2018 08:35am
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Quote (FroggyG @ Jun 23 2018 11:50pm)
You can't say he doesn't understand and then not elaborate. I would love to hear your explanation of why he's wrong and you're not.

When I say (and maybe him too) meta doesn't matter it doesn't mean it has 0 effect on everything. It means that you can play non-meta and still hit challenger, therefore you can't blame meta for your problems. If you can't climb it's because you lack skill.

That's why Dopa is saying "you can win regardless of meta if you play well"


"Gold Funneling" has been around for a really long time. Dopa thinks it's a coincidence that it became "meta" in 8.10. It wasn't a coincidence that it coincided with the jungle nerfs of 8.10. Because jungle was gutted in 8.10 it's just now more often better to have a fed carry+second support over 2 carries( because the jungle "carry" is so weak) then it was in previous patches.

The bot lane meta has very little to do with the power of ADCs and everything to do with the fact people copy other players. With riot finally actually trying to make ADCs balanced pro teams have been asking their ADCs players learn other non-marksman champs, then the master/challenger players see that and copy it. Diamond players see this and copy it and within a few weeks everyone is doing it.

If you play for the meta as a silver 3 player you will be able to climb a bit. If you play like it doesn't matter you'll likely fall. If you keep picking Jinx into kill lanes you will lose LP it doesn't matter if you're challenger or Bronze 4. The meta effects you no matter your rank and this is a constant.
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Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ Jun 24 2018 09:20pm)
"Gold Funneling" has been around for a really long time. Dopa thinks it's a coincidence that it became "meta" in 8.10. It wasn't a coincidence that it coincided with the jungle nerfs of 8.10. Because jungle was gutted in 8.10 it's just now more often better to have a fed carry+second support over 2 carries( because the jungle "carry" is so weak) then it was in previous patches.

The bot lane meta has very little to do with the power of ADCs and everything to do with the fact people copy other players. With riot finally actually trying to make ADCs balanced pro teams have been asking their ADCs players learn other non-marksman champs, then the master/challenger players see that and copy it. Diamond players see this and copy it and within a few weeks everyone is doing it.

If you play for the meta as a silver 3 player you will be able to climb a bit. If you play like it doesn't matter you'll likely fall. If you keep picking Jinx into kill lanes you will lose LP it doesn't matter if you're challenger or Bronze 4. The meta effects you no matter your rank and this is a constant.
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you're dead wrong for so many reasons
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Quote (Zeidox @ Jun 24 2018 03:01pm)
you're dead wrong for so many reasons


not the first time
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Quote (potentate @ Jun 24 2018 06:07pm)
not the first time


Lmao
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Jun 24 2018 06:22pm
Quote (Zeidox @ Jun 24 2018 03:01pm)
you're dead wrong for so many reasons


Quote (potentate @ Jun 24 2018 04:07pm)
not the first time



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Jun 24 2018 06:37pm
To quote myself from before it became meta

Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 13 2018 09:01am)
JG is basically just roaming support now.


Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ May 9 2018 08:27pm)
Play Top, Mid or Bot. JG can't solo hard carry outside of bronze/low silver. With Duo you can carry with Yi or Twitch.


Wow i guess someone predicted the mid/jungle "gold funneling" strat

Better luck next time guys
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Jun 24 2018 07:06pm
Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ Jun 25 2018 12:37am)
To quote myself from before it became meta





Wow i guess someone predicted the mid/jungle "gold funneling" strat

Better luck next time guys


mhm yeah but it has been around for years.
and what you're saying isn't true
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Jun 24 2018 07:10pm
Quote (Zeidox @ Jun 24 2018 06:06pm)
mhm yeah but it has been around for years.
and what you're saying isn't true


What i'm saying is true, but it wasn't meta before. It was a boosting strat. I predicted this, get over it. Only part i was wrong about is Twitch v Kai'sa as the marksman hypercarry.
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Jun 24 2018 08:38pm
Quote (BrianPhoenixx @ Jun 24 2018 09:10pm)
What i'm saying is true, but it wasn't meta before. It was a boosting strat. I predicted this, get over it. Only part i was wrong about is Twitch v Kai'sa as the marksman hypercarry.


Whose multi are you anyways?

This post was edited by Ramy on Jun 24 2018 08:38pm
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