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Mar 27 2012 05:12am
Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 27 2012 11:51am)
Lol I didn't count but we dueled about 15 times and I won at least 5... you won ofc but was fun



I'd much rather face someone slightly worse than you with Grief than you with EDC


Dunno for sure Man.. I dont really count fun duels ^

but lets say it was 70:30

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Mar 27 2012 05:13am
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Mar 27 2012 05:17am
Quote (Jeebus666 @ Mar 27 2012 07:12am)
Dunno for sure Man.. I dont really count fun duels ^

but lets say it was 70:30


Works for me, I just want to get across that I didnt get annihilated :)
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Mar 27 2012 05:22am
Quote (batman2 @ Mar 27 2012 02:11am)
add my guide for a SvS Fireball

http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=61405609&f=87
Basically Doh's but as a fire sorceress


I will gladly add this guide if it was rewritten with pvp strategies, I've been waiting for you to do so


About the plague zons specifically, there is no other build archetype that kills a bowa as easily as a tele-plague zon
It stands still, always has 75% block, always has 70% avoid, while it teleports
Due to this, it has absolutely no concern for being as aggressive as possible vs a bowa because the bowa will litterally miss it, 15 out of 16 shots
Stomps and tosses poison trails, (people who usually main on shit like Druids/SvS) WILL HIT YOU eventually with a plague javelin stomp
Then all it takes is a single GA or low powered CS, you're dead
The poison is so dangerous because you cannot dodge it, it just hits if you're in the cloud (Even Poison Nova can be Avoided/Evaded, Poison/Plague Javelin cannot)
It goes under all the boons of the amazon and uses them against her (surpasses dodging and WSGing but uses these against her)
Even an amazon's gear setups do not well support anti-poison gear, by equipting such gear you kill an amazons frw/ias/damage

If you played in the East NL community, you'd see this build used against bowas
It's become common play in wagers as a power counter

Same with Zeal Sorcs capable of casting Hydras as frame initiaters and FBs for long range spam
It's better than a zeal paladin because it's tele is fast enough to actually catch good casters
Zeal Sorcs are another power counter that is used vs quick fcr characters with low ass block

Again, you'd never see anyone enter a counter character into a pvp ladder, seeing as how they are usually geared to take down a specific build
But recently they are very popular for rock/paper/scissoring wager duels








Current Compilation:

Habakkuk's Bow & Fury ZvA Guide V1.13d
Jesper's Zon Guide 1.13
Arelax’s Non-Ladder ZvZ Bowazon Guide
Darken99’s PvP .13 Tele Javazon (Legit)
~Damach Zon Guide~
Hackzone’s 1.13 Tri-hybrid Pv@ll Amazon Guide

Claw Basics
Bui’s Ghost Assassin Guide
TienJe's Ghost Assassin Guide v2.0
Bui’s Hybrid Assassin Guide
Legend's Trapper Guide
1.12 PvP/TvT Trapsin Guide
Testic's PvP Kicksin Guide

Ling's Barb Versus Caster Guide V1.2
Luis' Bvc Guide
Public Barb Versus Barb Guide By Math

Sharkbites Rabies/fury Guide. -1.12
1.12 PvP 163/99 & maxblock elemental druid V. 3.0
1.13 Elemental Vita Druid Guide

Bui’s Poison and Bone Necromancer Guide
Erik's Pvp Bone Mancer Guide
Godest's Guide To The Poison Nova Necro V2.0
Summoner Guide 1.13

Bui’s Vindicator/Templar Paladin Guide
The Pvp Hammerdin Guide
Tienje & Halo273's Mage Paladin Guide V1.2
1.13 Elemental Auras Guide
The Zealot
Marvel's Tele Smiter Guide

V1.13 Gm Es Hybrid Blizzard Sorceress
DOH's SvS Lightning sorc Guide
Fireball Sorceress With Energy Shield
Dual Dream Enchantress Sorc



Here is the criteria for (Is it a Mainstream Guide?):

* Is it based around d2jsp GM ruling? - If not, it isnt' mainstream
* Is it a build that you would show up to a 500fg blind wager with? - If not, it isn't mainstream
* Is it a well laid out guide that is easy to understand and is it accurate? - If not, it doesn't need to be posted here
* Are the PvP Strategy sections complete and informative in a comprehensive format? - If not, it doesn't need to be posted here

This post was edited by Habakkuk22 on Mar 27 2012 05:28am
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Mar 27 2012 05:39am
Voyaging got annihilated

u suck son'
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Mar 27 2012 05:40am
Quote (KFClol @ Mar 27 2012 07:39am)
Voyaging got annihilated

u suck son'


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k bro

I admitted beforehand I'm not a great dueler.

Plus jeebus himself said the ping was really bad... I happened to be playing the class that required the best ping
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Mar 27 2012 06:19am
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k bro

I admitted beforehand I'm not a great dueler.

Plus jeebus himself said the ping was really bad... I happened to be playing the class that required the best ping


yea but he lives in europe and you don't
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Mar 27 2012 06:20am
Quote (tudey @ Mar 27 2012 08:19am)
yea but he lives in europe and you don't


My ping was regularly 250-300, not even close to low enough to play bvc
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Mar 27 2012 06:24am
Quote (Jeebus666 @ 27 Mar 2012 04:12)
Also Imo, if u play in a realm where oak charges aren't allowed, using a Lo Lo circ and a raven instead of Lo Cham + wisp is probably a better choice ( more AR, dex, mana and 20% abs vs hurri vs a bit more light damage taken ).


or maybe just tg? NaPPeD -,-
i guess thou if you really want cbf then you'd have to cham griff but it should still be a better setup)

Quote (Voyaging @ 27 Mar 2012 15:20)
My ping was regularly 250-300, not even close to low enough to play  bvc

well it's really all about how good you can control the char, I know some people sometimes get double teles with low ping and can play better with higher ping (but usually high ping -> bad control though)

but if you had trouble controlling it then why did you play a barb anyway xD much better classes available for laggy conditions

This post was edited by tudey on Mar 27 2012 06:28am
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Mar 27 2012 06:31am
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or maybe just tg? NaPPeD -,-
i guess thou if you really want cbf then you'd have to cham griff but it should still be a better setup)


well it's really all about how good you can control the char, I know some people sometimes get double teles with low ping and can play better with higher ping (but usually high ping -> bad control though)

but if you had trouble controlling it then why did you play a barb anyway xD much better classes available for laggy conditions


I am really only good with a barb out of the fpk chars, i tested out necro with him and did decently (about 30-40% win vs him), but I've only been playing necro for about 3 days. I suck with sins and I suck with druids. He didn't want to play any of my non-fpk chars.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Mar 27 2012 06:31am
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Mar 27 2012 06:35am
Quote (tudey @ Mar 27 2012 01:24pm)
or maybe just tg? NaPPeD -,-
i guess thou if you really want cbf then you'd have to cham griff but it should still be a better setup)


well it's really all about how good you can control the char, I know some people sometimes get double teles with low ping and can play better with higher ping (but usually high ping -> bad control though)

but if you had trouble controlling it then why did you play a barb anyway xD much better classes available for laggy conditions


ye valky cham and t-gods is prob better, didnt think of that lol ^^

and well, unfortunately without uni internette, it seems my ping is like all other euro's on that server lol

Quote (Voyaging @ Mar 27 2012 01:31pm)
I am really only good with a barb out of the fpk chars, i tested out necro with him and did decently (about 30-40% win vs him), but I've only been playing necro for about 3 days. I suck with sins and I suck with druids. He didn't want to play any of my non-fpk chars.


We only did 1 round me trap u nec iirc ^

And ye, agree with tudey, i dunno how u find 63 fcr better on high ping. But yea, lets try some other time when its not so laggy -.-

This post was edited by Jeebus666 on Mar 27 2012 06:55am
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