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Somehow, even knowing Biden would be a typical spineless Democrat, he still managed to classify anarchists and pro-choice marchers as domestic terrorist threats, somehow made Guantanamo Bay worse than Trump according to human rights organizations, and I would be remiss if I left out the part where the Supreme Court sided with Nestle over aiding and benefitting from literal slavery. Like I knew he and the Democrats would co-opt and defang BLM and #metoo while doing fuckall about children in cages, yet he still surprises me with his shittiness lmao.


#Bernie2024 - "He can still win"
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#Bernie2024 - "He can still win"


Bernie is a rotten suck dem who gets a jail cell along with the other war criminals. Didn't vote for him in 2016, nor 2020. Sure as shit wouldn't vote for him in 2024.

Like, I really wish Democrats were as cool as Republicans think they are lmfao
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Somehow, even knowing Biden would be a typical spineless Democrat, he still managed to classify anarchists and pro-choice marchers as domestic terrorist threats, somehow made Guantanamo Bay worse than Trump according to human rights organizations, and I would be remiss if I left out the part where the Supreme Court sided with Nestle over aiding and benefitting from literal slavery. Like I knew he and the Democrats would co-opt and defang BLM and #metoo while doing fuckall about children in cages, yet he still surprises me with his shittiness lmao.


This is weird because Biden is governing in a more progressive way than most people expected. And Biden doesn't control what the Supreme Court does.

America is a centrist country... nobody who you would approve of as president can get elected.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jun 19 2021 07:35am
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executive orders are not laws. people need to learn the difference lol.
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After obama gop do not get to talk about obstruction.



Obama had the house and senate and did nothing when he had the time to do so. Your comment is just dubious.
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Jun 19 2021 03:36pm
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This is weird because Biden is governing in a more progressive way than most people expected. And Biden doesn't control what the Supreme Court does.

America is a centrist country... nobody who you would approve of as president can get elected.


America is a centrist country so middle right Biden is significantly to the right of that.

America wants reasonable gun control, national healthcare, and higher taxes on the wealthy. Biden doesn't fight for any of that.
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America is a centrist country so middle right Biden is significantly to the right of that.

America wants reasonable gun control, national healthcare, and higher taxes on the wealthy. Biden doesn't fight for any of that.


70% of Americans preferred Trump's stance to border security.

Biden is not a populist. He is an out of touch aristocrat.
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America is a centrist country so middle right Biden is significantly to the right of that.

America wants reasonable gun control, national healthcare, and higher taxes on the wealthy. Biden doesn't fight for any of that.


I think political reality matters more than a majority of Americans supporting some vague position at the polls.
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Jun 19 2021 04:31pm
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I think political reality matters more than a majority of Americans supporting some vague position at the polls.


Yeah, we have a political reality where people can agree with leftist ideas like national healthcare but will then vote against the more liberal candidate because commercials ran saying they are communist.

The biggest thing we can learn from American political reality is how easy it is to manipulate the American public with crap propaganda.
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Yeah, we have a political reality where people can agree with leftist ideas like national healthcare but will then vote against the more liberal candidate because commercials ran saying they are communist.

The biggest thing we can learn from American political reality is how easy it is to manipulate the American public with crap propaganda.


As the saying goes: "the devil is in the details" - it's not hard to find majority support for a vague, good-sounding policy in a poll. Finding majority support for a concrete bill which spells out all the costs and downsides, the winners and also the losers, is an entirely different story.

Regarding the examples you gave: Americans' understanding of 'reasonable' gun control or higher taxes on the 'wealthy' differs wildly. For an NRA member, "reasonable" gun control means that people should not be allowed to open carry flamethrowers or rocket launchers...

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jun 19 2021 04:40pm
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