Quote (fender @ Mar 11 2020 07:57pm)
i'm not pretending politics isn't determined by voters, i'm saying that there have been considerable efforts to manipulate voters to support the establishment candidate - that's a massive difference.
at the end of the day, it IS the voters, hence my conclusion that americans deserve what they are (not) getting. that said, you'd be fooling yourself if you believed the average voter was even remotely as interested or informed as we are, keeping up with political news and processes on a nearly daily basis. main stream media, endoresements, and party propaganda still has a considerable influence, and it's hardly a secret where their bias is...
Manipulate how? Why are the endorsements of politicians who think Bernie is too radical and would lose not legitimate? Why is the first state with a significant African-American vote choosing Biden not legitimate? The primary process starts with a couple states without significant minority populations, which isn't representative of the Democratic party.
Endorsements aren't dirty politics... they're just politics. If Bernie can't manage to win some important people over, why should we believe he could pass significant legislation?