Quote (IceMage @ 12 Mar 2020 21:55)
Agreed with Black.
I think there's a couple areas of disagreement(you disagree with every characterization I make about your positions, but here goes):
You think people in the Democratic party encouraging someone to drop out is manipulative and dirty. I generally don't. Sure, if it was leaked that Tom Perez was working behind the scenes to get people to drop out in an attempt to help Biden, that would be dirty, because Perez has said he wouldn't do those sorts of things. Aside from him and a few others at the DNC, Democrats are free to use whatever power they have to shape the primary. Even if Obama personally made calls to Pete and Amy to encourage them to drop out and endorse Biden(which is highly unlikely), I view it as standard politics. Just as all the angry Bernie supporters on Twitter who called for Warren to drop out, powerful people in the party have a right to voice their opinions in public or private. It's Bernie's fault if he can't get more powerful Democrats on his side.
To be honest, I'm fine with political parties putting their thumbs on the scale to influence who wins the nomination. I trust the leadership at the DNC and pre-Trump RNC far more than I do the masses.
i know, and that's stupid. that's why you will only ever get establishment candidates who are beholden to their donors, and not their voters. again, obviously none of that is technically illegal - corporate owned lawmakers made sure it wouldn't be in the last couple of decades - but that doesn't mean it isn't manipulative, no matter how desperately you're trying to normalise it.
we should trust the experts with working out the details and implementing policies - but trusting them to platform those that are in the interest of their voters, that are the best for the average american, is outright moronic - as long as they work for people who make a fortune off exploiting the working class, this will not happen. you can ignore it / try to portray it as conspiratorial / tell me that you're fine with it, and that it isn't really so bad... all you want, but the simple truth is: