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Sep 15 2018 04:09pm
Quote (Chevaucheur @ Sep 15 2018 01:46pm)


Ketone bodies aren't lipids. You should know that...
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Sep 15 2018 04:18pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Sep 15 2018 09:21am)
The enzymes which promote fat storage are inhibited by excess fats. It's this way so they don't immediately store fat after it's been released in the cell.

Those enzymes are also activated by carbohydrates and carbohydrate byproducts.

It's hard to get fat by eating fats for this reason, and it's excessively easy to get fat by eating sugar, more specifically it's very easy to get fat by eating fructose.



Also, if you really want to get into the weeds, your body also uses fat in gluconeogenesis to maintain blood sugar, and produce ketones as a secondary product if it can't make enough glucose.



Gluconeogenesis happens especially when you stop eating for a long while.
If you eat fat, your liver will produce a lot of ketone bodies.

Moreover, op is diabetic.
There is a real risk for him to have acidified blood.

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Gluconeogenesis happens especially when you stop eating for a long while.
If you eat fat, your liver will produce a lot of ketone bodies.

Moreover, op is diabetic.
There is a real risk for him to have acidified blood.


Yeah, op needs to monitor, but as long as your insulin response is adequate your body will make glucose from fat instead of ketone bodies, and the excess fat will inhibit fat storage.
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Sep 15 2018 06:00pm
It requires glucagon for your your liver to produce glucose.

And it requires Acetyl-Coa for your liver to produce ketone bodies (there are always Acetyl-Coa molecules in your cells, either when you eat either when you do not eat).

While you eat, you create a lot of Acetyl-Coa and therefore a lot of ketone bodies.
That could cause an acidosis.

But around the meals, ureogenesis is stimulated, and that creates an alcalosis instead.

So, if you do not pee and eat a lot, you may have an acidosis.
If you do not eat for a long time and don't pee, you may have an acidosis.

If you do not eat for a long time, your liver do not produce glucose anymore, and your brain will mostly use ketone acids.
That significates more catabolism & more ketone acids in your blood.



Here are two advises for op:
Do not hold your pee
And do not stop eating for a long time (3+ days)



If you eat a lot, you will have a lot of Acetyl-Coa.
But given the fact you have low glucagon levels, you won't produce a lot of ketone acids.

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My A1C is very good for a diabetic like 6.5, and the average is like 9 or something (lower is better). Don't worry about muh health though thanks.
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Nov 18 2018 10:49am
how dos keto works ?
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Quote (GymFreax69 @ Nov 18 2018 10:49am)
how dos keto works ?


The enzymes in your body that store fat are inhibited by fat. Its this way because if they start storing fat while you are releasing fat for energy you will just result in an energy wasting loop.

Protein is also wasteful to convert to fat because it takes a lot of steps.

Sugar is really easy to convert to fat.

So keto is basically just eating the first two and as little of the third as possible. Make it as hard as possible to make and store fat and you wont gain fat.
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like low carbohydrate and high fat , sugar ?
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