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Mar 5 2024 01:00pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Mar 5 2024 11:56am)
IMAGINE taking away the opportunity for someone to exist as you do and to not feel bad about it


I can imagine. It's great.

What I can't imagine is being so far up my own ass I have to scream and cry online about what chick's are doing with their own bodies. I mean that's a rough life.

Also statisticaly since I'm only haveing up to two children I actually provided a vastly better opportunity for a child to prosper since my current wouldn't exist otherwise if I had those two that were aborted that had very little chance of success. So Im still having two kids, just with vastly better odds in life.

I'll take that all day.

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Sure happy to kill them off, life's better for it. Call it murder if you please. Has zero bearing on myself.

See I own it and have zero problem owning it. Really could care less what online opinions are and frankly it's really not overly difficult to see that the progressives around this are making obvious headway if you look at it over the past 100 years. Think it's here to stay, you might just have to deal with it and keep posting online opinions like it makes a difference!


It is admirable that you do not behind lies, and freely communicate your position, which I believe is the general prevailing position of pro-abortion people that most lie about or refuse to admit (the eugenics argument along with personal wealth/benefit). My understanding is that the main point of your argument is that murder is OK as long as it benefits you (then is murder not okay if it doesn't benefit you? Is abortion not acceptable if it isn't likely to benefit you?)

The problem with your argument is that, to be logically consistent and not a hypocrite, you would be OK with me rolling up to your house with multiple armed men, slaughtering your wife with a long sword, crucifying you, taking your home and stealing all your stuff, raping your young daughter(s) in front of you repeatedly before taking her as a sex slave breeder, and taking your young son(s) for slave labour, because it benefits me (greatly!) and I couldn't care less about how it harms you.

Would you agree that to oppose this is to be a hypocrite and logically inconsistent?
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Mar 5 2024 01:15pm
Quote (Ryvulet @ Mar 5 2024 09:56am)
IMAGINE taking away the opportunity for someone to exist as you do and to not feel bad about it


I couldn’t care less tbh
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It is admirable that you do not behind lies, and freely communicate your position, which I believe is the general prevailing position of pro-abortion people that most lie about or refuse to admit (the eugenics argument along with personal wealth/benefit). My understanding is that the main point of your argument is that murder is OK as long as it benefits you (then is murder not okay if it doesn't benefit you? Is abortion not acceptable if it isn't likely to benefit you?)

The problem with your argument is that, to be logically consistent and not a hypocrite, you would be OK with me rolling up to your house with multiple armed men, slaughtering your wife with a long sword, crucifying you, taking your home and stealing all your stuff, raping your young daughter(s) in front of you repeatedly before taking her as a sex slave breeder, and taking your young son(s) for slave labour, because it benefits me (greatly!) and I couldn't care less about how it harms you.

Would you agree that to oppose this is to be a hypocrite and logically inconsistent?


No. I don't agree that it's logically consistent.

But you're welcome to call me a hypocrite happy to wear that title from a bunch of people I don't care about.

You're also ommitting that it vastly benifits the net two children I am having. I'm not having four if I didn't abort two.

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Yikes


Why is it so hard for republicans to accept the truth?
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No. I don't agree that it's logically consistent.

But you're welcome to call me a hypocrite happy to wear that title from a bunch of people I don't care about.


Can you elaborate on why it's not logically consistent? It's just a hypothetical discussion
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Quote (El1te @ Mar 5 2024 12:17pm)
Can you elaborate on why it's not logically consistent? It's just a hypothetical discussion


No, hence why I'm happy for you to call me a hypocrite because that's your next sentence.
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Quote (SBD @ Mar 5 2024 11:16am)
No. I don't agree that it's logically consistent.

But you're welcome to call me a hypocrite happy to wear that title from a bunch of people I don't care about.

You're also ommitting that it vastly benifits the net two children I am having. I'm not having four if I didn't abort two.


I don't mean to omit that, it of course benefits your children & family as well.

Same as in my hypothetical scenario, the products of your son's slave labour greatly benefits my family by providing them with financial security, while your sex slave daughter also greatly benefits my family by making lots of new loving brothers and sisters who go on to become doctors and lawyers with well funded education thanks to your stuff and slave labour
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Quote (SBD @ 5 Mar 2024 12:51)
We do things that result in better statistical outcomes all the time. Who cares what could have been you could win on 0 or 32 on the roulette table too, does it mean you should take a chance that would have disastrous outcomes if you didn't win. No, probably not.

Now my child has a much better chance of becoming a brain surgeon or saving lives, compared to the single parent poverty child that would have been.


Could care less if it's a child we're talking about or you're spirituality to be honest. My God says it's all good to abort.


What God is that if I may ask?

You don't exist outside of natural law. When you kill an unborn child you lack a moral compass and making excuses like "it's about the money long term" and "increased better odds now" is all about YOU.YOU.YOU. Your ego got the better of you and you refuse to admit that to yourself.

Every action has a consequence and when you commit an act like "murdering an unborn child" you'll make up all sorts of excuses to justify that action.

You say that the two kids you have now have better chances then the two you aborted but in reality those that you aborted had the same odds because you are a good person and like any man/woman would've done anything(working 3 jobs) to make it happen. Your kids would've gotten a public education and as a low income parent still gotten into a college and had a productive life?

edit: You didn't want to bear an early "burden"??? Because you were too young to realize the significance of the inception of a single human life. Like I said that doesn't make you a bad person that just means you didn't have the higher mental faculties to make the tougher moral decision but the right decision. You made a decision out of fear and not love because you were too young to understand the difference.

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Quote (SBD @ Mar 5 2024 11:18am)
No, hence why I'm happy for you to call me a hypocrite because that's your next sentence.


Your argument is contemptible if you don't even care to bother defending it

This post was edited by El1te on Mar 5 2024 01:21pm
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