Quote (Loipisdead @ Apr 28 2023 03:06pm)
I would argue that the woman who's been with men and knows exactly what she wants is less likely to cheat over the virgin who's been with a couple people or none and then goes for the next best thing that comes alone. Religious people are less likely to cheat because of the social lack of tolerance in that community to go on and about. There are plenty of people (on both sides) that stick with their first or near-first partner. You do not need to have experienced different men between the sheets as a woman to be able to determine what you want. There are plenty of guidelines on normal emotional, relational and sexual development as one grows into adulthood. If you want to learn more about this, just visit your GP and ask about some well-respected sources on the subject. I only know it for my own country.
Thats been the case From my experience at least. the most honest, loving, faithful, good hearted person Ive ever met has the same body count as I do. Confirmation bias. Theoretically it is possible that out of 1000 women with the same body count 999 would be cheaters and you got lucky number 1000. This is just theory, but I'm giving you an extreme to understand what confirmation bias is. The general message (that a lot of people have already stated tbh) is that there's an increased odds of Y if history is X. An increased odds does not mean "certainty". There are different factors playing a role and it would be unfair to judge anyone by just their body count to draw hard conclusions. That does not mean that one cannot have personal preferences.
It definitely made me realize a lot, I use to have the same mindset a lot of you have here
Someones morals and character aren't defined by what's been in-between their legs Nope, but "butterflies" do tend to have specific personality types that are not for everyone. On one end, you've got the "long live the fun and exploration", and on the other, you've got borderliners or near-borderliners who are unable to deal with themselves without the reassurance of someone else. The latter tends to be your typical 16 year old girl with mediocre self-esteem and usually a coldhearted or absent dad. You'll find more information on the subject in the DSM classification for personality disorders. Borderline is cluster B.
My girl has been with the same number as me ( just about ) and I know for a fact she would NEVER be able to cheat on me This is what /every/ guy says to themselves until they're proven wrong. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am saying that your belief that someone will not cheat will not influence the risk of them cheating or not. The fact that your partner has had a specific range of number of partners and did not cheat only confirms the simple fact that behaviour in general is multifactorial and not just dependent on body count.
The same way Id never be able to cheat on her. Hat tip. Keep up the good work.
It all boils down to morals and what type of person that person is.
The way we were both raised, the way we treat each other and our basic values like family, it just isn't in us to cheat. Its not a part of who we are
A lot of the men who think that way, the "for the streets" way, never practice what they preach Assumption and, tbh, probably projection
They will sleep with everyone and anyone and think nothing of it, but the second a woman does it it becomes a morals issue An issue that is not necessarily moral
If you practice what you preach thats fine, if you ALSO won't have sex with people just to have sex because you view yourself the same way you do woman who do it, but thats hardly ever the case People are quite free to have a preference for virgins or low body count spouses while being whores themselves. It's difficult to appreciate such hypocricy, but it's their business, not yours or mine. I would ask of them, at the very least, to own who and what they are and to be open about it with their next bed partner(s) so that they can make an informed decision.
I also never started thinking this way until I started getting with guys also and realized its the exact same thing as being with woman
A lot of men don't have both perspectives, so they just look down on woman who enjoy sex Are you saying that one needs to have experienced every facet of sex before being allowed to speak on the subject? That's rich, mate. People can have whatever opinion on whatever subject. They just have to suck up the social consequences if their opinion is absolute bogus. Every social action comes with a social response, plain and simple.
A woman can enjoy sex and still be "wife material" A woman can enjoy sex with a total number of 1-3 partners instead of 10 to 300, also. Nobody here will argue against the virtue of having wives who enjoy sex (what the fuck are you even doing with the woman if she doesn't lol?)
"wife material" to me is someone who has values and morals. It just isn't in my significant others morals to ever cheat, she doesn't have it in her
took me a very long time to realize that, and I only started realizing it once I had perspective from both sides. That doesn't mean that everyone has to have had your same experiences before being able to speak on the subject. And you'll also have to face the fact that other people will have other views on what "wife material" is. I don't mind it if my spouse still has a lot of soul searching left to do. This is the case for my partner. I have a choice to support her in her journey and I'll also have a choice to see if her growth happens to be in a direction that suits what I'd like to see. At the same time, she's absolutely free to grow in whichever direction she wants, as I very often tell her, and it's perfectly OK if we split up because of having moral conflicts with one another. In fact, we have one, and we've been working on it for years (and counting).
I've never had to hit on a woman, they have always came to me and I've been able to pick and chose, so I never understood the argument that woman have it easier
I know a lot of woman who have trouble getting laid, if you're an attractive man you bring a lot of woman in, if you're ugly its hard, same goes for woman
An ugly woman also has a harder time getting laid than an attractive one This entire paragraph makes it seem like getting laid is your number one priority when you're not with someone. I personally value people a great deal if they've had a sabbatical. It makes them less dependent of the sexual factor to find a new partner, which ironically in my experience tends to lead to /much/ better intimacy with your next spouses. Anywho, if you define getting laid easily as a success factor, you'll have to consider that "success" may be defined differently by other people and so your view of someone's success may be very different than that other person. For instance, someone may have had 50 partners and 2 relationships and consider themselves a failure because they did not have a lot of relationships in comparison to someone they know who's had 3 partners and 3 long-term relationships. In contrast, the 3-partners-3-relationships person may feel like (s)he is missing out on something having had less sexual partners and is left wondering if there's something to discover that the partners could not provide up until that moment. But the grass is always greener on the other side, I suppose. It helps to just accept being happy with what you've got, I find.
My truth isn't the same as everyone elses though because we have all walked separate paths
But from where im standing, caring about what's been in-between someones legs rather than what's in their heart always leads to problems One may be informative of the other. Doesn't hurt to use all pieces of information you've got before going balls-deep into a relationship, right?
A lot of guys don't ever put blame on the other men and always just view the woman as the problem, sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't Assumption. I venture a lot of these men have small weewee's.
They could have attracted nothing but abusive, controlling assholes, left them and moved on to the next abusive controlling asshole until they found the right one, leaving "body counts" behind them Should try one of those 95% of the men that are not with the 3% abusive fucks and not with the 2% niceguy syndrome types
I stay away from the types of woman who get their nails done, wear fake eyelashes, post race pics for affirmation on the internet
From my experience those are the types of woman who just enjoy sex and don't care about hurting you or not I'm sure there's an association between certain looks on one end and the way one values their sexual experience on the other, but again: assumption. There will be nail-doing, fake eyelash-wearing, pics-for-affirmation posting women out there who are very much emotionally invested in their next relationship, in fact, they may not even be the whore who just enjoy sex you assume them to be. For all you know, their body count is still 0.
The types of girls who dress themselves up like they are going to the clubs every night , or actually do go to the clubs every weekend
tldr: if your significant other has values and morals, it doesn't matter what's been in-between her legs, only thing that matters is what's in her heart
That was fun. I await your rant.
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