It's a very simple concept.

Racism is real in that people think it's real. People still think its real, and those effects permeate through time. Even if we eliminated race as a concept in everybody's mind tomorrow, the physical circumstances of those people wouldn't change over night. Black people wouldn't become equal to whites in average wealth immediately. It would take 100 or more years for things to even themselves out.

So while race itself is not a factor, because race is acknowledged by society it *creates* the factor. In the same way if we decided people with red hair are inferior tomorrow, it would create red hair as a socioeconomic risk factor.

Acknowledging that race is a risk factor for socioeconomic reasons is not racist. It's the factual state of affairs. Even if we took two completely identical people and gave them exact circumstances outside of race, one would still be treated differently and have different risk factors than the other on that basis alone simply because of how the concept of their race exists in the mind of people in society.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jan 23 2022 05:34pm

Think of it this way. The only thing that really makes you poor is that your bank account displays a lower number. Everything else is sociological.

Is there anything about the number on the screen being lower that predisposes you to Covid? No. It's purely how others in society treat you, and that manifests into different physical circumstances.

Take two genetically identical people and give one a billion dollars and one ten dollars. They're gonna have very different risk factor profiles simply because of how they are treated.

Same with race. You can't completely control socioeconomic factors because race is a socioeconomic factor. It will change how they're treated through their lives even when everything else is identical.

Differences that don't exist, like race, become existant in their effects on the individual throughout their lives because of how society at large treats them.

But merely acknowledging race does not make it a risk factor for poverty/bad health outcomes/crime/etc. It only becomes a present-day factor if there are still racist people and racist thinking in the present-day. In the absence of these things, we would theoretically arrive at the situation you described in the first paragraph: inequality which is caused by past discrimination and persists for some time because inequality has a tendency to perpetuate itself; and it takes 100 years or so until things have 'naturally' evened out.






This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 23 2022 05:40pm

Yes, but racism isn't gone, and the effects of past racism exist. This creates a differential medical risk profile for those individuals compared to others even in absence of a biological difference.

So when the medical recommendations come back and say "Hey, turns out this group has worse outcomes and that can be startified based on race", they're not being racist. They're just reporting the facts. It's not racist to acknwledge race as a socioeconomic risk factor. It's just reality. Same as being poor, or working long hours and being customer facing.

Incorrect. Their rates of basketball slam dunks and rapes are both much higher as well.

another goom topic and yet another spamfest with lifelong pro-segregationist pale pasty privileged lefty drains on society like thor sioux and kenw accusing everyone else of being what they are

hes calling minorities “dumb and incapable of taking care of themselves”. so the government must do it. nothing is beneath that bottom-feeding trashbag user

I self-identify as a black woman, thanks..

Goomshill really rattled the cage ^^

Well just one person being triggered is all it takes to flood the thread. TBH, do you see anyone else on PARD willing to defend explicitly racist rationing policies? Midgets like sioux don't count
To the sane folks on the left, its gotta be deeply uncomfortable at a minimum. But maybe that's an oxymoron at this point