Can it make ghost viable without wsm glitch you think?

I think ghost is viable without wsm glitch as it is, all this stuff aside.



this glitch benefits BoS assassins more than faded ones, so I don't think it's going to help ghost all too much
except in BoS mode dclaw is gonna be hella scary.

Im also unsure of what these uncapped ias caps mean for whirlwind mechanics.
anyone wanna dig into that?
I'd love to know if there are any changes there, tbh that could potentially be the biggest game changer if anything is different there.

I completely forgot about the existence of dclaw. Haven’t used it in like 13 years. Gotta try it out again. I want goomy to make a video of 2 frame dclaw now.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Oct 25 2021 11:57am

Fireclaw can be used as werewolf maybe there is an advantage to using that over werebear now for pure ias.

Yeah, since the main reason to use bear form was that werewolf was capped at 5 frame, this could make a lot of sense. Bear form does have more life and defense, but it has bad FHR/FBR breakpoints and terrible attack rating. Unless somehow FBR/FHR have also been affected by new breakpoints.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Oct 25 2021 02:56pm

I’m more interested in a potential 3 frame fury or 4 frame fury on things like Mauls, Axes and Polearms.

Bear also has shockwave as an advantage which I would say is another main reason to play a Bear in PvM.

not sure what would be the fastest speed possible for dclaw now.
without wsm bug its not possible to hit -45wsm or faster with claws now.

and also dclaw has some very high ias bps, much higher than traps to hit what is normally the 10fpa (2 attacks per use) cap on dclaw.
also the cap would only be broken in BoS setups, which limits it to sin vs necro duels on c/c usually.

I'm most interested currently in figuring out what are the next ias bps past the normal cap for traps and dtalon.
can the 3f followup kicks be broken further? or just the 7frame startup kick?

anyone that can help me figure this out?

looking for further breakpoints while using a -30 weapon, -20 weapon, and -10 weapon.


@gel87
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Yes, i believe attack speed for that will be calculated same way as last hit of fury. Since its a paw attack which does not start next attack before animation is finnished.

Wolf in d2r using fireclaw:
Which will say, according to d2r:
* 90ias tombreaver hits 6 frames at 30 item ias, and need 95 of wep ias to reach 5 frames.
* 120ias giant tresher/tresher reach 4 frames fireclaw at 25 item ias. With 32 skill ias from fana you get 3 frames at 55 item ias.
* 120ias pb reaches 3 frames with 80 item ias.
* 65ias pb reaches 4 frames with lvl 15 fana merc if 80 item ias.

Frames =Roundup((256*13/((100+SpeedIncrease)/100*AnimSpeed));0)-1




3frames:
100ias tomb reaver + 150 gear ias and ur there.
70ias eth cruel rare giant tresher/tresher + 85 gear ias ur there.
70ias eth cruel rare giant tresher/tresher + fana lvl 15 + 20 gear ias.
90ias eth tomb + fana lvl 15 merc + 55 gear ias(loh + hl + jool).

That last option is super interesting. And not at all bad. Fana gives more damage too.

How much IAS do a BotD Thunder Maul and Archon Staff need to reach 4 frames?