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Oct 24 2021 07:16am
Quote (gel87 @ Oct 24 2021 01:21pm)
7frame gmb with forti

vs

6 frame mb with 160/60 armor.

Shapers Will benefit most.

20 HOW
20 Grizzly
Syntenergies to Grizzly
X werebear
X maul
1 shockwave

Now immagine this as a 3 frame attack with beast mauling and ur grizzly attack at ur side.

Or a fury wolf with 4 frame attack from grief pb


why compare mb with 160/60 and gmb with forti ? ^^

y if the wolf can hit you.... and that's not happening a lot ^^
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Oct 24 2021 08:22am
If this is all true it will change a lot of bis weapon choices for things like Fury Wolves/Zealers/Smiters.
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Oct 24 2021 08:48am
Quote (Chikoulinger @ Oct 24 2021 03:16pm)
why compare mb with 160/60 and gmb with forti ? ^^

y if the wolf can hit you.... and that's not happening a lot ^^


Because:
Faith GMB 15 aura
Forti
Nosferatus / (previous we used bug belt on eu)
2/20/kb gloves
highlord/cats
30frw/45ias/120ed helm
= 95 ias and 7 frame attack.

So to drop down to 6 frame attack you need MB faith + and 1 ias jool in armor additionally to this, but in pvm particular you would use 2 ias jools + razor belt, and in pvp you might want a dungo instead, or another free choice in helm.

But to make it simple.
GMB+Forti 7frames vs MB + jewelers(160ed/15+ias) 6 frames.

The resists of fortitude will be a hard toll in it self to replace. Ofc a jewelers helm u can chose coa for helm if u want DR/resists etc.
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Oct 24 2021 11:03pm
Does this mean fireclaw wolf will do like 2 frame fireclaw?

This post was edited by Dr_Lecter on Oct 24 2021 11:03pm
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Quote (Dr_Lecter @ Oct 25 2021 07:03am)
Does this mean fireclaw wolf will do like 2 frame fireclaw?


I dont know how to calculate werebear attack speed.

What i would guess is that with the use of 100+ ias in -10wsm polearm, or -30wsm pb with some additional ias could get faster frames with additional off hand ias.

Or

You try to get a fast frame with forexample eth tomb reaver, since werebear easy get like 300% ed. With offhand ias i would guess.

2 frames sounds like a lot, so i would guess thas with fana.

This post was edited by gel87 on Oct 24 2021 11:38pm
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Oct 24 2021 11:54pm
Goomshill tried a bear assa :rofl:



https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=88218573&f=148&p=585022151

This post was edited by cantero on Oct 24 2021 11:56pm
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Oct 24 2021 11:57pm
This topic is maybe one of the most important for the furure of pvp.

If u need help doing some test, hit me. I'll help for sure.
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Quote (cantero @ Oct 25 2021 07:54am)
Goomshill tried a bear assa :rofl:

https://files.catbox.moe/g53c5v.webm

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=88218573&f=148&p=585022151


Holy shit we can clearly see dmg are applied each hit...

And the legacy switch is a proof that something change between d2 and d2r.
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Quote (Chikoulinger @ 25 Oct 2021 07:59)
Holy shit we can clearly see dmg are applied each hit...
And the legacy switch is a proof that something change between d2 and d2r.


Yes, it's not only a client side attack. It really works.
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Quote (cantero @ Oct 25 2021 02:04am)
Yes, it's not only a client side attack. It really works.


ya its appearing that way.
originally I thought it might be just clientside, but did some testing recently and its looking real.

gonna make for some fun builds if it doesn't get patched.
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