Lockdowns kill people too. Its a question of numbers and rates. How many people with cancer died because their surgery was delayed?

I'm not saying they did worse than us (EU and NA) in the past - I'm saying that it's completely unnecessary to continue their previous approach now that the conditions have fundamentally changed.



Disrupting the lives of an entire nation to prevent every last death from a virus which will inevitably become endemic and which is no longer (sic!) more deadly than other common diseases (for which NZ didn't shut things down in the past) is indeed an extreme position.

If someone suggested that cars should be limited to 20 mph out of town and 10 mph in town to "reduce trafic deaths as much as possible", that would also be a clear and concise position and a bad faith debater could spin it as "valuing human right to life" - it would still obviously be absurd and extreme.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jan 23 2022 02:09pm

If the hospital I work at wasn't totally overloaded right now I'd be more sympathetic, but since I've already been over how Omicron is still serious with you I'm going to call you a bullshit artist and tell you to shut the fuck up with your bad faith comparisons to reducing car speeds.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Jan 23 2022 02:16pm

lol ya right watch her laugh at the fakery of it all
Prime Minister Confirms In The World Of Covid-19, Orgies Of 25 People Are Good To Go In New Zealand
https://www.bitchute.com/video/r6jrJ4dwsPzM/

*edit i mean him

This post was edited by TiStuff on Jan 23 2022 02:24pm

they didnt accomplish shit except draconian measures that just delayed what was always going to happen

that dumbass zero covid cult member thought covid would disappear if they just locked everyone down hard enough

now covid makes its round in new zealand and she counters with even more nonsense to save face



omicron isnt even the flu anymore, its a fucking cold

the scamdemic is over, deal with it

Oh look an idiot who has never worked within 10 feet of healthcare trying to tell scientists and healthcare workers about the status of the place they go 5+ days a week.

Yawn.

doesnt matter, hospitalizations are going down big time with omicron

idiots like you who cant let go of the pandemic, because it has become their identity, wont change the facts

please dont talk about science when you are defending the zero covid stupidity and people who have been wrong about literally everything

its over karen

This post was edited by JohnnyMcCoy on Jan 23 2022 02:32pm

Oh look it's shitting on the board and claiming victory.

Omicron is still a very real problem that's overloading hospitals, and I know because the hospital I work at literally every day is still at maximum capacity. But yeah, I should listen to a random guy on the internet that says my hospital definitely isn't full.

nobody is talking about your sinkhole hospital

I actually work at one of the top medical institutions in the country. Not everybody is sitting in their moms basement like you are