Quote (Black XistenZ @ 8 Dec 2019 16:04)
you're shifting goalposts. my original claim was that authorities are scared of the political implications of publishing statistics about the decline of the white population share and/or the increase of the muslim population share, and that they're extra careful when communicating such figures to the public. or even sometimes using tricks to obfuscate such developments in official statistics. the stuff you quoted is me providing examples/proof for this claim. nowhere in all of this did I or the sources I quoted say that I or anyone else is "scared of brown people" or "thinking that muslims are out to get you".
a big chunk of a child's socialization takes places inside the core family. those mohameds you're talking about, the ones growing up in french or swedish or german or dutch cities, are neither of european descent nor are all of them raised and socialized in an envrionment dominated by European culture and norms.
The current European culture is shaped by the values of enlightenment and secularization. Its values form the bedrock of liberal democracies and the constitutions of all Western countries. Migration which took place before the age of enlightment is irrelevant for today's discussions.
The United States came to be thanks to mass migration, yes. But it was mass migration of Europeans. In the grand scheme of things, the cultural differences between English and Irish and German and Italian Americans were never that huge, it was always likely that these groups would merge into one shared culture and identity in the end. Whether Latinos will ultimately integrate into the American 'melting pot' as well remains to be seen. I'm carefully optimistic, but only if there is a "breather period" with lower levels of immigration.
When it comes to the Russians and Turks in Germany: those Russians are largely the descendants of Germans who were expelled from their homeland and driven to Asia, or captured by the Soviets, in the aftermath of WW2. Most of them have identified with the German state and consider themselves to Germans first and foremost.
The Turks are a very mixed story. Many of them integrated well, found decent jobs, married, follow the law, pay their taxes, speak fluent German etc. On the flip side, a large chunk of them is unemployed, struggles to speak German, still identifies predominantly as Turkish, considers Erdogan to be their president and so on. Turks are vastly overrepresented among high school dropouts, welfare recipients and when it comes to violent crime, and that's almost exclusively due to this second group. The split between the successful and the unintegrated Turks is roooughly 50:50. Unfortunately, the gap is not closing either, there are tons of third- or even fourth-generation Turks who still make no progress towards integrating (culturally or economically) into our society.
Iranians in Germany are largely successful and well-integrated, but that's because Iranian expats are largely the families of intellectuals (writers, scientists, journalists) who came here fleeing the oppression of Iran's theocratic regime.
For all other muslim countries of origin, the split between the successful migrants and the troublemakers who are a drag on our society is very unfavorable, about 20:80 or so.
your claim was that german authorities are trying to "TRICK" people in order to "MASK" how many mohameds there really are.
also, i would really like to know your source for the part i highlighted, and a definition of "european values and norms".