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Oct 8 2019 08:02pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ 9 Oct 2019 03:55)
The us has more people in prison per capita than china.


So? The US is still a more free and desirable society than China. That China is able to inflict self-censoring and submissive behavior onto its citizens and consequently doesnt have to rely on high incarceration rates to keep them in check speaks to the efficiency of their oppression system.

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Oct 8 2019 08:16pm
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So? The US is still a more free and desirable society than China. That China is able to inflict self-censoring and submissive behavior onto its citizens and consequently doesnt have to rely on high incarceration rates to keep them in check speaks to the efficiency of their oppression system.


Go ask the average chinese person how oppressed they feel.
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Oct 8 2019 08:18pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 8 2019 10:16pm)
Go ask the average chinese person how oppressed they feel.


Why? They aren't free to give an honest answer and/or have been indoctrinated and prevented from accessing information.
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Oct 8 2019 08:19pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 8 2019 09:02pm)
So? The US is still a more free and desirable society than China. That China is able to inflict self-censoring and submissive behavior onto its citizens and consequently doesnt have to rely on high incarceration rates to keep them in check speaks to the efficiency of their oppression system.


nvm, I misread the post

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Oct 8 2019 08:20pm
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Why? They aren't free to give an honest answer and/or have been indoctrinated and prevented from accessing information.


You defended the legitimacy of the Ukrainian Parliament vote with Russian guns at their backs. Since when does this matter to you?
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Oct 8 2019 08:27pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ 8 Oct 2019 21:55)
The us has more people in prison per capita than china.


a more free society founded on liberty allows the individual to choose to do crime and be punished with incarceration

crime in china = re-education camp or death
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Oct 8 2019 08:28pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Oct 8 2019 10:20pm)
You defended the legitimacy of the Ukrainian Parliament vote with Russian guns at their backs. Since when does this matter to you?


No I didn't.

I've been very critical of authoritarianism the entire time I've been involved in political discussion.

I dont like some weasel scumbag making false insinuations about my character.
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Oct 8 2019 08:29pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 9 2019 01:18pm)
Why? They aren't free to give an honest answer and/or have been indoctrinated and prevented from accessing information.


Bullshit, my chinese mates here in australia have as much freedom to say anything they want as anyone else here.
They all support the republic, china is a great place to live for many people and a horrible one for many, its the same as the usa, the freedom you all value so much is an illusion.
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No I didn't.

I've been very critical of authoritarianism the entire time I've been involved in political discussion.

I dont like some weasel scumbag making false insinuations about my character.


Funny, i remember the posts he is referring to.

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Oct 8 2019 08:31pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ Oct 8 2019 10:29pm)
Bullshit, my chinese mates here in australia have as much freedom to say anything they want as anyone else here.
They all support the republic, china is a great place to live for many people and a horrible one for many, its the same as the usa, the freedom you all value so much is an illusion.


You aren't a serious person.


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Funny, i remember the posts he is referring to.


Sure you do. Just like you remember pro-israel comedians being neo-nazis for telling jokes.
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Oct 8 2019 08:32pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Oct 8 2019 09:28pm)
No I didn't.

I've been very critical of authoritarianism the entire time I've been involved in political discussion.

I dont like some weasel scumbag making false insinuations about my character.


Yeah no, you did. And I called you out on it.
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