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Jan 14 2019 09:02am
Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Jan 14 2019 07:31am)
I’ll take a shot in the dark and say it’s provider to provider. None of the ED docs or mid levels I work with ever order a crp, it’s too broad of a diagnosis tool.


On the floors its often used by rheumatologists or ID to trend infections
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Jan 14 2019 09:38am
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On the floors its often used by rheumatologists or ID to trend infections



Yep! For diagnostic purposes, it’s pointless. For trending purposes when you know what disease process is occurring, it’s great. Good example, I have UC, my doctor does a CBC and a CRP every 6 months to monitor it.
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Jan 14 2019 11:45am
CRP is sensitive not specific

ie it confirms you have inflammation but does not narrow down the etiology
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Quote (ozzyarmy3 @ Jan 14 2019 02:43pm)
CRP indicates inflammation somewhere, protocol states with rebound pain in the rlq and an elevated white count requires imaging, that’s best practice.

And I rarely see a CRP ordered anymore, but that’s based on the provider. I work emergency medicine, I see it daily.


I work as a doctor at a hospital emergency department. Mostly internal medicine cases but also the occasional minor trauma and acute abdomen. CRP is practically ordered from every patient routinely over here. It's very good for first line diagnostics, where you first assess whether it's an infection/inflammation or not. It's quite valuable to both know when the patients CRP is elevated and when it's low, because it directs further diagnostics. The test itself is dirt cheap.

It may be indeed provider based, though. I live in Europe so we may have a different methodologies. Where i live emergency departments are often separated into internal, surgical and general practice departments. The GP "emergencies" are usually minor issues and there we don't take CRP routinely. The emergency dept. I work at takes in patients with referrals (mainly by GPs) so it may be that we have a higher incidence of informative CRP counts because of selection.

Quote (Bubbler @ Jan 14 2019 07:45pm)
CRP is sensitive not specific

ie it confirms you have inflammation but does not narrow down the etiology


It's also highly specific for inflammation. It's not specific to the cause of inflammation apart from somewhat differentiating between a bacterial and a viral infection.

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Yep! For diagnostic purposes, it’s pointless. For trending purposes when you know what disease process is occurring, it’s great. Good example, I have UC, my doctor does a CBC and a CRP every 6 months to monitor it.


It doesn't indeed confirm diagnoses, but you can't say it's a useless diagnostic tool, because it can tell you the severity of an infection, and is a highly specific marker for inflammation. Low CRP on a clearly sick patient is valuable info, for example. Obviously you need to be able to match it with other findings.

UC meaning ulcerative colitis? What's CBC?

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UC meaning ulcerative colitis? What's CBC?


It stands for complete blood count, you probably call it H & H where your from I'm guessing.

UC = ulcerative colitis.

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Well since you all are bumping this here is a update.

Dr called me today and said I have Helicobacter pylori Infection

Its infection of the stomach. When they ran the endoscope down me he took biopsy samples of it and sent it off to the best of my understanding. They called me today and said it was positive for Helicobacter pylori Infection.

I picked my medicine up earlier 2 different antibiotics and some stomach pills. 8 pills per day to try and kill this infection in me.

My gallbladder is working 61 percent said it dont need to come out at this moment. My pancreas still hurts as I think I still have pancreatis it hasn't healed since around Thanksgiving. So I guess now I try to fight the Helicobacter pylori Infection and try and cure it and maybe my pancreas will start feeling better
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Quote (Marinda @ Jan 16 2019 12:55am)
Well since you all are bumping this here is a update.

Dr called me today and said I have Helicobacter pylori Infection

Its infection of the stomach. When they ran the endoscope down me he took biopsy samples of it and sent it off to the best of my understanding. They called me today and said it was positive for Helicobacter pylori Infection.

I picked my medicine up earlier 2 different antibiotics and some stomach pills. 8 pills per day to try and kill this infection in me.

My gallbladder is working 61 percent said it dont need to come out at this moment. My pancreas still hurts as I think I still have pancreatis it hasn't healed since around Thanksgiving. So I guess now I try to fight the Helicobacter pylori Infection and try and cure it and maybe my pancreas will start feeling better


h-pylori is a pain in the ass man.. Glad to hear that they narrowed it down though.

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Quote (dogboston @ Jan 16 2019 12:39am)
It stands for complete blood count, you probably call it H & H where your from I'm guessing.

UC = ulcerative colitis.


Ah okay. I was just wondering why not take calprotectin every now and then, it's a good indicator of intestinal inflammation. I don't know much about IBD though.
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Quote (Neptunus @ Jan 16 2019 10:39am)
Ah okay. I was just wondering why not take calprotectin every now and then, it's a good indicator of intestinal inflammation. I don't know much about IBD though.


CRP is just as good of an indicator if they already know what they're tracking. I also get scoped pretty frequently, was yearly when I was diagnosed and now its every 3 years. I'm sure if I began complaining of symptoms, they'd order a stool specimen or occult stool.

Not 100% sure why my gastro doesn't run that test, I assume that being asymptomatic and 0 occult blood is a strong enough indicator.
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