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Jul 15 2018 05:08pm
i don't think so
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#42
Jul 15 2018 06:19pm
Quote (Horford @ 14 Jul 2018 10:24)
you don't think 15+ center-leaning G.O.P. senators would flip and impeach if Trump were to (indirectly) fire Mueller?


The best part is where you even think the Dems will take the House. 6 Months ago they were hyping up a Blue Wave to take back the house with D+12 general polls. Now those same polls have shrunk to D+0 or flipped to low R+. Huge "Blue Wave" which was taken out to slaughter about a month ago by the same MSM that hyped it in the first place.

And the only reason the polls shifted from the D+12 is so they didn't look SO WRONG come November. It's a Pollster rerun.

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Jul 15 2018 06:20pm
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The best part is where you even think the Dems will take the House. 6 Months ago they were hyping up a Blue Wave to take back the house with D+12 general polls. Now those same polls have shrunk to D+0 or flipped to low R+. Huge "Blue Wave" which was taken out to slaughter about a month ago by the same MSM that hyped it in the first place.


Yeah, that's cool and all but i don't trust polls anymore after Novemember 2016.
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Jul 15 2018 06:24pm
Quote (Horford @ 15 Jul 2018 18:20)
Yeah, that's cool and all but i don't trust polls anymore after Novemember 2016.


You should trust them, the pattern is the same. They had Hillary up even in state polls early with massive numbers. Then as the race wore on they had to shift them to be much, much closer to avoid being SO WRONG as noted above in my edit. They still left Hildawg with the win because they were hopeful. But it's the same thing now. Early numbers are hugely in favor of Dems (trying to shape opinion), but as they season wears on and they realize people aren't moving, they have to shift toward more realistic numbers so their end of the cycle polling isn't horrendously inaccurate. Blue wave not happening based on the D+12 which has shrunk to nothing over 6 months with still nearly 4 months til election day.
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Jul 15 2018 06:32pm
Quote (timmayX @ Jul 15 2018 08:24pm)
You should trust them, the pattern is the same. They had Hillary up even in state polls early with massive numbers. Then as the race wore on they had to shift them to be much, much closer to avoid being SO WRONG as noted above in my edit. They still left Hildawg with the win because they were hopeful. But it's the same thing now. Early numbers are hugely in favor of Dems (trying to shape opinion), but as they season wears on and they realize people aren't moving, they have to shift toward more realistic numbers so their end of the cycle polling isn't horrendously inaccurate. Blue wave not happening based on the D+12 which has shrunk to nothing over 6 months with still nearly 4 months til election day.


We'll see. A lot can happen between now and november.
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Jul 15 2018 07:01pm
Quote (Horford @ 15 Jul 2018 18:32)
We'll see. A lot can happen between now and november.


Agreed, but barring any terrible party-wide scandal or the start of a new military conflict, I don't see this changing.
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Jul 15 2018 07:15pm


I think the Dems have just gotten a bit too flaky, even fro the Dem voters.
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Jul 15 2018 09:40pm
Quote (timmayX @ 16 Jul 2018 02:19)
The best part is where you even think the Dems will take the House. 6 Months ago they were hyping up a Blue Wave to take back the house with D+12 general polls. Now those same polls have shrunk to D+0 or flipped to low R+. Huge "Blue Wave" which was taken out to slaughter about a month ago by the same MSM that hyped it in the first place.

And the only reason the polls shifted from the D+12 is so they didn't look SO WRONG come November. It's a Pollster rerun.


Lol wut? Thats not true...

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

Due to built-in geographic advantages of the GOP, and due to the GOP making much more use of gerrymandering than the Democrats, experts estimate that the Democrats would need to win the house popular vote by around 6-9 percentage points to make the race for the house a coinflip. And that's exactly where we're standing right now.

Their dreams of retaking the Senate against an extremely GOP-tilted map, however, have pretty much crashed and burned by now.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 15 2018 09:41pm
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Jul 15 2018 09:58pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 15 2018 09:15pm)
I think the Dems have just gotten a bit too flaky, even fro the Dem voters.


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#50
Jul 16 2018 05:30am
Swamp creature btfo
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