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Dec 18 2018 12:08pm
Quote (ampoo @ Dec 18 2018 06:56pm)
yeah, thats the worst part
people wont even get quick cash, unfortunately this new "law" makes it clear that orban also is a corporate puppet

and he is still right on migration


You're right on the corporate puppet, heard something about a BMW deal to keep labor cheap and ensure production in Hungary.

The problem there has never been immigration though, nobody wanted to go there in the first place, now Orban needs walls to prevent the massive emigration taking place, to keep his own citizens inside the country.
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Dec 18 2018 12:13pm
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You're right on the corporate puppet, heard something about a BMW deal to keep labor cheap and ensure production in Hungary.

The problem there has never been immigration though, nobody wanted to go there in the first place, now Orban needs walls to prevent the massive emigration taking place, to keep his own citizens inside the country.


well, the thing is that the overwhelming majority of hungarians clearly rejects immigration, however corporations are among the big supporters of that all over the world to get cheap labour
since the people wont accept that they now try to make the hungarians work more for more profit

they are lightyears away from a being a sinkhole that needs walls to keep people in and i am certain orban will have to retract this abomination of a law
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Dec 18 2018 12:13pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 18 Dec 2018 19:08)
You're right on the corporate puppet, heard something about a BMW deal to keep labor cheap and ensure production in Hungary.

The problem there has never been immigration though, nobody wanted to go there in the first place, now Orban needs walls to prevent the massive emigration taking place, to keep his own citizens inside the country.


look up the hungarian history under ottoman rule - the hungarians know damn well why they oppose the spread of islam in their country.
the "wall to lock in their own people"-part is pure bullshit.

their new overtime law is disgusting though. it should really tell you something when the far-right jobbik opposition (they are to the right of Orban's Fidesz party!) joins the leftists and centrist parties to oppose this law.


@fender:
there were also pulse of europe demos, demos in brussels against the UN migration compact, demos in spain, and so on, which all didnt resonate in this thread. we are not focussing on the french yellow vest protests because of a partisan bias, we focus on them because - I guess - we all just like to poke fun at France and Sauci. :blush:

edit: another contributing factor might be that western europe is most likely overrepresented here on d2jsp compared to eastern europe.

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Quote (ampoo @ Dec 18 2018 07:13pm)
well, the thing is that the overwhelming majority of hungarians clearly rejects immigration, however corporations are among the big supporters of that all over the world to get cheap labour
since the people wont accept that they now try to make the hungarians work more for more profit

they are lightyears away from a being a sinkhole that needs walls to keep people in and i am certain orban will have to retract this abomination of a law


That's basically the definition of populism.

Seems like Hungarians are finally in a protesting mode, let's hope this and more will be resolved from the inside.

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look up the hungarian history under ottoman rule - the hungarians know damn well why they oppose the spread of islam in their country.


Not just the Islam, it's about being afraid for invasions of any sort. great source to mine for politics.

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Dec 18 2018 12:20pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 18 Dec 2018 19:15)
That's basically the definition of populism.


He's right though:

https://openeurope.org.uk/today/blog/migration-remains-top-concern-in-hungary-and-across-europe/

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According to the Századvég Foundation’s most recent Project 28 survey results, 72% of Hungarians see illegal migration as a very/somewhat serious problem and 94% believe the EU’s borders must be protected more effectively. Recent Eurobarometer results also reveal that 58% of Hungarians rank immigration as the most important issue facing the EU and over 60% see it as a problem, rather than an opportunity, for the country.

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Dec 18 2018 12:21pm
Quote (Knoppie @ 18 Dec 2018 19:15)
That's basically the definition of populism.

Seems like Hungarians are finally in a protesting mode, let's hope this and more will be resolved from the inside.


this has nothing to do with populism, in 2016 98% voted against taking in migrants
turnout was around 50% so the other half didnt even bother
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Dec 18 2018 12:21pm
Btw, look at that magnificent parliament building in Hungary:



Daaamn that thing is fine!!! :drool:
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Dec 18 2018 12:22pm
Nationalist populist Orban got his protest in Budapest



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Dec 18 2018 12:48pm
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ 18 Dec 2018 19:22)
Nationalist populist Orban got his protest in Budapest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSFlHeDPlkU


looks rather civilised, unlike the outrages in your place
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Dec 18 2018 12:52pm
Quote (Knoppie @ Dec 18 2018 01:12pm)
Hungarians are protesting against the slave law imposed by Orban, heard shit was even becoming violent.. The law is making 7.7 hours overtime a week possible to demand from an employee, with overtime payment possibly coming after 3 years ?

The shitty government is selling this as "allowing ppl to earn more" while in effect it's keeping scarcity on the job market at bay, keeping labor cheap.

/e:

Lal, no you are not. The attacks are not coming from Sauci but from triggered morons for quite some time now. You're just enjoying kicking France a bit too much to see what's going on.


You're lost on what the internet is. Half the posters here are from other forums and discords that if you frequented you would know it's for shits and giggles.

You honestly think some people post for more than just a reaction out of some people? Do you know what site you're on?

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