Quote (CPK001 @ May 31 2018 09:53am)
Mary was not mentioned because
women were not normally listed in either Roman or Jewish genealogies. Luke is also making a point to trace Jesus' genealogy and not Mary's. I also understand the levirate marriage between Jacob and Heli. You did read Deuteronomy 25:5-6 right? If so then that picture explains it. In Luke's Gospel, he claims to have carefully investigated based on eyewitness accounts. Luke doesn't explicitly state that Mary was the daughter of Heli but you can do some searching like I did and figure it out. There are those who did all the hard investigations and present it all to you in easy to read form.
There may be one thing that I did get wrong and that is Matthat having another son, Joachim, who then had Mary. What if Heli and Joachim were one in the same? Heli and Joachim are interchangeable for the same man. Heli is the father of Mary! That explains everything and makes perfect sense!
This picture does indeed explain it all:
http://i64.tinypic.com/351g5qu.jpgOh yes and here is my reference.
http://newtheologicalmovement./2011/07/why-isnt-joachim-mentioned-in-jesus.htmlYou would never accept such an "explanation" for the quran, for buddhism. That excuse is seriously ludricous. Luke 3 is not about mary's genealogy. They clearly say joseph. You can then say that they did not mean joseph when they say joseph, but they meant mary when they said joseph, but any rational mind can sed through the pile of excuses and read luke 3 himself. Read the bible and you can see clearly that the apologetics explanation is not good enough.
And no.... levirate marriages were not included in genealogies... it was all about the seed. Most scholars tries to make it, like you, about a genealogy of Mary. There is zero evidence for this, zero. They don't even mention Mary.
Even if that was the case, why didnt authors just say so?
So much excuses.
My mother's father is John. My father's father is Roger. <-- No contradiction in this state at all, I was of course referring to my father's genealogy when I said it was Roger!
Quote (CPK001 @ May 31 2018 09:53am)
Believe me, if this were something in the Bible that did not make sense to anybody at all then there would be grounds to doubt the legitimacy of Jesus. If the genealogy were a problem then it would have proved that Jesus was illegitimate to be the Messiah. Instead, Christianity has been going strong for over 2,000 years.
Now you just suppose that Christianity is true because the big crowd says so. No! It is contradictory, period, and MANY CHRISTIAN scholars admits it. Earlier part in history it was not even allowed to own a Bible for ordinary people, so how could they read for themselves? It is just recently that everyone has an education and are able to read, understand and scrutinize Bible. The vast majority of people were simple workers in centuries, lol.
Islam has been going strong for 1400 years, yet that book contains errors. But of course, with your level of explanatory flexibility no book has contradictions.
This post was edited by Tjo on May 31 2018 04:56am