Quote (tcpgeest @ Oct 11 2021 12:17pm)

Wow this surprises me. Didn’t expect going from 5 to 4 frames to do so much.

So there really is absolutely nothing that can beat eTomb then for 2hand? Outside of maybe some theoretical max rolled eth self repair tare.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 11 2021 12:11pm)

I use Arreat Summit and a calculator for most of this:

http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items

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GPA - Average damage 86.5 * .5 ethereal bonus = 43.25 + 86.5 = 129.75

You have 399% ed so 129.75 * 4.99 = 647


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Archon - Average Damage 91 * .5 = 45.5 + 91 = 136.5 * 4.99 = 681

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Etomb

228 + 70% from two 35 ed jewels = 298% cryptic axe

91.5 average * .5 = 45.75 + 91.5 = 136.25 * 3.98 = 542


Then you have to check DPS.

https://d2.lc/IAS/

etomb 7/4 frame fury does 5.43 attacks per second = 5.43 * 542 = 2,943 average DPS

GPA 8/5 frame fury does 4.46 attack per second = 4.46 * 647 = 2885 avg DPS

Archon 9/5 fury does 4.31 attacks per second = 4.31 * 681 = 2935 avg DPS

This is before enhanced damage from items, strength and skills.

Let's assume level 30 fury 593%, 300% fort, 600 strength for GPA and etomb and 614 strength for archon

15.93 (1493%) * 2885 = 45,958 DPS GPA
15.93 * 2943 = 46,881 DPS eTomb
16.04 * 2935 = 47,077 DPS Archon

So the Archon titan build is slightly the best DPS

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One more thought, if you used 2 shaels instead of two 35% ed/ias jewels in the etomb it would look like this:

6/4 Fury = 5.68 attacks per second

228 % ed ethereal Cryptic Axe is ~ 91.5 average * .5 = 45.75 + 91.5 = 136.25 * 3.38 = 460

460 * 5.68 = 2621 * 15.93 = 41,621

Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 11 2021 11:47pm)

I have no idea what maxroll is but I'll go look at their site.

Send me a dm to their calculator you were using. I can message them a fix if it's broken.

Quote (tcpgeest @ Oct 11 2021 01:03pm)

I pm’d you. Maxroll is basically the default page for builds for people who are unaware of D2jsp. It has Dbrunski, Neanderthal and some other streamers on it. They have leveling guides, end game guides and a planner etc. Not sure if I can link websites but you can just google their name + diablo 2 planner and you should find it.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Oct 12 2021 12:14am)

I found it. It's a pretty clunky UI, still trying to figure out how to add str/dex lol.

By the way, for charms you absolutely want to use shapeshift skillers for these high damage weapons.

Quote (tcpgeest @ Oct 11 2021 01:18pm)

Why is that? I figured stacking more ED% on already high ED% is useless? Or rather, it is just adding, not a seperate multiplier. E.g. if I already have say 1000% total ED, adding 300 to it is just 30% more damage.

If anything, wouldn’t summoner skillers be better for HoW? That seems a better return on the damage increase. I figured raw max damage would be better.