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Last Wish vs Grief - Ubers

Conventional Grief setup:

Helm- Guillaume's Face. (Ort)
Shield- Upgraded Herald of Zakarum. (Um)
Amulet- Highlord's Wrath.
Armor- 'Duress' runeword, mage plate.
Gloves- Dracul's Grasp.
Boots- Goblin Toe.
Ring 1- Raven Frost.
Ring 2- Dwarf Star.
Belt- String of Ears.
Weapon- 'Grief' phase blade
+Damage: +400


Conventional Last Wish setup:

Helm- Guillaume's Face. (Ort)
Shield- Upgraded Herald of Zakarum. (Um)
Amulet- Highlord's Wrath.
Armor- 'Fortitude' runeword, archon plate.
Gloves- Dracul's Grasp.
Boots- Goblin Toe.
Ring 1- Raven Frost.
Ring 2- Dwarf Star.
Belt- String of Ears.
Weapon- 'Last Wish' phase blade
+Damage: +0


DPS Skills
20 Smite (Slvl 30) [+450% ED]
20 Fanaticism (Slvl 28) [+509% ED]
20 Holy Shield (Slvl 30) [+107-110 Smite damage]

Strength
Starting Attribute
Strength: 25
+Strength from items:
Guillaume's Face +15, Herald of Zakarum +20, Dracul's Grasp +15, Hellfire Torch +20, Annihilus +20.

Overall Strength: 115. [+115% ED]

Enhanced Damage Equipment
Grief setup:
+20%. (Duress)

Last Wish setup:
+300%. (Fortitude)

Enhanced Damage Auras
Grief setup: None.

Last Wish setup: Might Slvl 17 [+200% ED]

Total Damage
Code
(Shield Base + Holy Shield bonus + Damage bonus) * (1 + Smite %ED bonus + STR %ED bonus + Fanaticism %ED bonus + off-weapon %ED bonus) = Total damage


Last Wish setup:

(46+108+0) * (1+4.5+1.15+5.09+3+2) = 154*16.74 = 2577.96 (2,577)

Raw-damage vs Mephisto: 2577*0.8 (-20%) = 2061.6 (2061)
Raw-damage vs Diablo/Baal: 2577*0.5 (-50%) = 1288.5 (1288)

Grief setup:

(46+108+400)* (1+4.5+1.15+5.09+0.2) = 554*11.94 = 6614.76 (6,614)

Raw-damage vs Mephisto: 6614*0.8 (-20%) = 5291.2 (5291)
Raw-damage vs Diablo/Baal: 6614*0.5 (-50%) = 3307

Damage difference ratio: 1:2.56. Grief is 256% more efficient, raw-damage-wise.

Crushing Blow
Grief setup: 75% (15/20)
Last Wish setup: 100% (20/20)

Applying "Worst Cast Scenario" to Grief setup: CB applies to the last 15 of each 20 strikes (Less %HP drained overall).

Uber Mephisto/Diablo/Baal
Level: 110
HP: 650,000-660,000 [Average- 655,000]
Mephisto %DR: 20%. Crushing Blow- 12.5% *0.8 (-20%) = 10% [1/10]
Diablo/Baal %DR: 50%. Crushing Blow- 12.5% *0.5 (-50%) = 6.25% [1/16]

Last Wish smite sequence vs Mephisto (Total HP -10% --> 'NewResult' -2061 --> HP remaining )

Code
Smite #1- 587439
Smite #2- 526634.1
Smite #3- 471909.69
Smite #4- 422657.721
Smite #5- 378330.9489
Smite #6- 338436.854
Smite #7- 302532.1686
Smite #8- 270217.9517
Smite #9- 241135.156
Smite #10- 214960.6409
Smite #11- 191403.5768
Smite #12- 170202.2191
Smite #13- 151120.9972
Smite #14- 133947.8975
Smite #15- 118492.1078
Smite #16- 104581.897
Smite #17- 92062.7073
Smite #18- 80795.43657
Smite #19- 70654.89291
Smite #20- 61528.40362
Smite #21- 53314.56326
Smite #22- 45922.10693
Smite #23- 39268.89624
Smite #24- 33281.00662
Smite #25- 27891.90596
Smite #26- 23041.71536
Smite #27- 18676.54382
Smite #28- 14747.88944
Smite #29- 11212.1005
Smite #30- 8029.89045
Smite #31- 5165.901405
Smite #32- 2588.311265
Smite #33- 268.4801385
Smite #34- 0.


Last Wish smite sequence vs Diablo/Baal (Total HP -6.25% --> 'NewResult' -1288 --> HP remaining)

Code

Smite #1- 612774.5
Smite #2- 573188.0938
Smite #3- 536075.8379
Smite #4- 501283.098
Smite #5- 468664.9044
Smite #6- 438085.3479
Smite #7- 409417.0137
Smite #8- 382540.4503
Smite #9- 357343.6722
Smite #10- 333721.6927
Smite #11- 311576.0869
Smite #12- 290814.5815
Smite #13- 271350.6702
Smite #14- 253103.2533
Smite #15- 235996.3
Smite #16- 219958.5313
Smite #17- 204923.1231
Smite #18- 190827.4279
Smite #19- 177612.7137
Smite #20- 165223.9191
Smite #21- 153609.4242
Smite #22- 142720.8352
Smite #23- 132512.783
Smite #24- 122942.7341
Smite #25- 113970.8132
Smite #26- 105559.6374
Smite #27- 97674.16006
Smite #28- 90281.52506
Smite #29- 83350.92974
Smite #30- 76853.49663
Smite #31- 70762.15309
Smite #32- 65051.51852
Smite #33- 59697.79861
Smite #34- 54678.6862
Smite #35- 49973.26831
Smite #36- 45561.93904
Smite #37- 41426.31785
Smite #38- 37549.17298
Smite #39- 33914.34967
Smite #40- 30506.70282
Smite #41- 27312.03389
Smite #42- 24317.03177
Smite #43- 21509.21728
Smite #44- 18876.8912
Smite #45- 16409.0855
Smite #46- 14095.51766
Smite #47- 11926.54781
Smite #48- 9893.138572
Smite #49- 7986.817411
Smite #50- 6199.641323
Smite #51- 4524.16374
Smite #52- 2953.403506
Smite #53- 1480.815787
Smite #54- 100.2648003
Smite #55- 0.


Sequence [34] + Sequence [55x2] = 144 Smites @ 6 FPA (4.1 Atk/s)= 35.12 Seconds.

Grief smite sequence vs Mephisto (Total HP -10% [15/20] --> 'NewResult' -5291 --> HP remaining)

Code
Smite #1- 649709
Smite #2- 644418
Smite #3- 639127
Smite #4- 633836
Smite #5- 628545
Smite #6- 560399.5
Smite #7- 499068.55
Smite #8- 443870.695
Smite #9- 394192.6255
Smite #10- 349482.363
Smite #11- 309243.1267
Smite #12- 273027.814
Smite #13- 240434.0326
Smite #14- 211099.6293
Smite #15- 184698.6664
Smite #16- 160937.7998
Smite #17- 139553.0198
Smite #18- 120306.7178
Smite #19- 102985.046
Smite #20- 87395.5414
Smite #21- 82104.5414
Smite #22- 76813.5414
Smite #23- 71522.5414
Smite #24- 66231.5414
Smite #25- 60940.5414
Smite #26- 49555.48726
Smite #27- 39308.93853
Smite #28- 30087.04468
Smite #29- 21787.34021
Smite #30- 14317.60619
Smite #31- 7594.845571
Smite #32- 1544.361014
Smite #33- 0.


Grief smite sequence vs Diablo/Baal (Total HP -6.25% [15/20] --> 'NewResult' -3307 --> HP remaining)

Code
Smite #1- 651693
Smite #2- 648386
Smite #3- 645079
Smite #4- 641772
Smite #5- 638465
Smite #6- 595253.9375
Smite #7- 554743.5664
Smite #8- 516765.0935
Smite #9- 481160.2752
Smite #10- 447780.758
Smite #11- 416487.4606
Smite #12- 387149.9943
Smite #13- 359646.1197
Smite #14- 333861.2372
Smite #15- 309687.9099
Smite #16- 287025.4155
Smite #17- 265779.327
Smite #18- 245861.1191
Smite #19- 227187.7992
Smite #20- 209681.5618
Smite #21- 206374.5618
Smite #22- 203067.5618
Smite #23- 199760.5618
Smite #24- 196453.5618
Smite #25- 193146.5618
Smite #26- 177767.9017
Smite #27- 163350.4078
Smite #28- 149834.0073
Smite #29- 137162.3818
Smite #30- 125282.7329
Smite #31- 114145.5621
Smite #32- 103704.4645
Smite #33- 93915.93547
Smite #34- 84739.1895
Smite #35- 76135.99016
Smite #36- 68070.49078
Smite #37- 60509.08511
Smite #38- 53420.26729
Smite #39- 46774.50058
Smite #40- 40544.09429
Smite #41- 37237.09429
Smite #42- 33930.09429
Smite #43- 30623.09429
Smite #44- 27316.09429
Smite #45- 24009.09429
Smite #46- 19201.5259
Smite #47- 14694.43053
Smite #48- 10469.02862
Smite #49- 6507.714331
Smite #50- 2793.982185
Smite #51- 0.


Sequence [33] + Sequence [51x2] = 135 Smites @ 6 FPA (4.1 Atk/s)= 32.92 Seconds

Conclusion: Grief is faster, if only by a negligible amount of time, even in the "Worst Case Scenario".

Cost
Last Wish: 5 High Runes, 1 Mid Rune (Mal).
Grief: 1 High Rune, 1 Mid Rune (Mal).

FAQ:
Q: Last Wish offers Fade, more Life Tap chance and 25% extra Crushing Blow. How does Grief setup compensate for all that?

A: You get everything from a Grief setup.

Crushing Blow
'Duress' runeword + Guillaume's Face + Goblin Toe = 75% Crushing Blow (CB). Damage sequence has shown a lesser %CB setup still outweighed 100% CB in overall DPS.

Life Tap
+1-3 'Life Tap' (LT) wand (XX charges).
Initial cast, switch to main. Further proccings will occur from Dracul's Grasp.

Fade
Prebuff 'Fade' Slvl 15 ( >Slvl 11 from Last Wish), #1 stand in a fire or #2 stand, shield taken away (recommended), in front of an Undead Archer mob / Quill Rat mob.
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You have way to much time on your hands. Get out and do something productive.
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this is the version we can start linking retards? :D

e: typos...

This post was edited by Mikk0 on Oct 11 2010 10:10am
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Quote (Mikk0 @ Oct 11 2010 07:10pm)
this is the version we can start linking retards? :D

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Yes.
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Oct 11 2010 12:46pm
still a dumb way to acct for CB dmg
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Oct 11 2010 05:58pm
<astrons for me :P
+4 , cb , and damage*85 * is win w/slow.



Good work, I like the quick and easy post on this that decisively shows the difference.

This post was edited by Master_Zappy on Oct 11 2010 05:58pm
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Quote (MajinKaisa @ Oct 11 2010 09:46pm)
still a dumb way to acct for CB dmg


It is the worst way for 'Grief' setup to account for %CB and yet it outweighs Last Wish.
Any other chances of triggering CB would result in an even faster killing rate on Grief's part.

Quote (Master_Zappy @ Oct 12 2010 02:58am)
<astrons for me :P
+4  , cb , and  damage*85 *  is win w/slow.


I too believe 33% CB / +85 Damage / +4 Paladin Combat Skills outweighs +400 damage
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Oct 16 2010 04:06am
Your Last Wish set-up is way overflowed of CB, LW offers 60-70 CB, Goblin Toe offer 25% CB and Guillaumes offers 35%, which sums up to 120-130 %, Besides the CB non of these items offer anything worth the item slot, right?
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