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Oct 21 2010 02:27pm
Quote (Downfall360 @ 21 Oct 2010 22:25)
who the fuck uses gface when they have last wish?
lw>grief.

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Oct 21 2010 02:42pm
Quote (Downfall360 @ 21 Oct 2010 23:25)
who the fuck uses gface when they have last wish?
lw>grief.

and my smiter does ut hella fast and hella easy with a black flail and griswolds shield lol


Clueless rand :lol:

The maths is infront of you and still you ignore them.
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Quote (CeePee @ 21 Oct 2010 23:42)
Clueless rand  :lol:

The maths is infront of you and still you ignore them.


bla bla..

cant help everyone
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Oct 21 2010 06:27pm
Either one works. An extra couple of swings for LW isn't going to matter.
Especially if you pre-buff with fade. Probably adds up to more time to get that going with treachery, then jsut to jump in with LW and get it auto.

All preference, really.
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Oct 21 2010 07:54pm
Afk using Astreon's & last wish.
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t4i dudes;) atm working on my upcoming smiter....
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Quote (ZvLoD @ 22 Oct 2010 02:27)
Either one works. An extra couple of swings for LW isn't going to matter.
Especially if you pre-buff with fade. Probably adds up to more time to get that going with treachery, then jsut to jump in with LW and get it auto.

All preference, really.

Actually no, prebuffing fade takes next to no time at all, not to mention that jumping in with last wish means you're going in with no fade active. Plus the fade from treachery is a higher level.
The point here is that a lw costs 4x as much as a grief and is less effective.

This post was edited by MateDeVita on Oct 22 2010 05:09am
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Oct 22 2010 02:47pm
If u're poor - use grief, guli, duress and other shit. U will need help from other char to tele ofc - slow organ runs
But if u want to do fast organ/ut runs with only smiter - eni/lw/coa/dungo/draks/zaka/etc - easy safe runs
if u're doing only ut runs (already have organset) - grief > lw
Conclusion:
lw requres only for enigma setup - solo organ/uber runs
on other situations grief > lw
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Quote (Lampogriz @ 22 Oct 2010 23:47)
If u're poor - use grief, guli, duress and other shit.  U will need help from other char to tele ofc - slow organ runs
But if u want to do fast organ/ut runs with only smiter - eni/lw/coa/dungo/draks/zaka/etc - easy safe runs
if u're doing only ut runs (already have organset) - grief > lw
Conclusion:
lw requres only for enigma setup - solo organ/uber runs
on other situations grief > lw


Grief wins, period. LW sucks, period.
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Oct 23 2010 04:07am
this is very important as the difference is so little, that it doesnt affect anything

this is pvm guys.
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