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#11
Oct 16 2010 04:51am
Quote (BloomTwig @ Oct 16 2010 01:06pm)
Your Last Wish set-up is way overflowed of CB, LW offers 60-70 CB, Goblin Toe offer 25% CB and Guillaumes offers 35%, which sums up to 120-130 %, Besides the CB non of these items offer anything worth the item slot, right?


Any other boot or helm selection will only result in more stats, but not more damage.
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#12
Oct 16 2010 05:25am
Yes grief is better but all you need to do is practical tests in game, showing average time. It's definitive and number crunching on paper doesn't show the true difference.
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#13
Oct 16 2010 08:06am
Quote (Hardwire @ Oct 16 2010 02:25pm)
Yes grief is better but all you need to do is practical tests in game, showing average time. It's definitive and number crunching on paper doesn't show the true difference.


One cannot rely simply on field tests, especially if %Chance is in effect, and game rolls are considered premature at best (A field test with 75% CB can yield 100% CB success in a specific run, hence rendering that test improbable to analysis).
One can only boarder the lines of %Chance and issue a radius of potentiality.

True, %Chance cannot be fully determined by what I have chosen to show here, however since my only agenda was to show how Grief performs better than Last Wish under the worst circumstances (In which 75% CB is applied after 25% of 100% X amount of strikes which were 'CB-less', thus resulting in the least DPS), I've simply shown how those worst circumstances come into play.
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#14
Oct 18 2010 03:52am
Could you calculate the Grief-Setup with Exile/CB-Crafts?
I know, it's way too expensive to realize it, it's just about facts... ;)

The Calculations for Astreon's in a certain setup would also be good to know...
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#15
Oct 19 2010 06:43pm
Grief>astreons> lw

lw is just sad
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#16
Oct 21 2010 06:47am
Astreon's Iron Ward


Helm- Guillaume's Face. (Ort)
Shield- Upgraded Herald of Zakarum. (Um)
Amulet- Highlord's Wrath.
Armor- 'Duress' runeword, mage plate.
Gloves- Dracul's Grasp.
Boots- Goblin Toe.
Ring 1- Raven Frost.
Ring 2- Dwarf Star.
Belt- String of Ears.
Weapon- Astreon's Iron Ward
+Damage: +85

DPS Skills
20 Smite (Slvl 34) [+510% ED]
20 Fanaticism (Slvl 28) [+509% ED]
20 Holy Shield (Slvl 34) [+131-134 Smite damage]


Total Damage
(46+133+85)* (1+5.1+1.15+5.09+0.2) = 264*12.54 = 3,310.56 3,310
Raw-damage vs Mephisto: 3310*0.8 (-20%) = 2648
Raw-damage vs Diablo/Baal: 2577*0.5 (-50%) = 1655

Crushing Blow
100%.


Uber Mephisto/Diablo/Baal
Level: 110
HP: 650,000-660,000 [Average- 655,000]
Mephisto %DR: 20%. Crushing Blow- 12.5% *0.8 (-20%) = 10% [1/10]
Diablo/Baal %DR: 50%. Crushing Blow- 12.5% *0.5 (-50%) = 6.25% [1/16]

Astreon's Ward smite sequence vs Mephisto (Total HP -10% --> 'NewResult' -2648 --> HP remaining )

Code
Smite #1- 582352
Smite #2- 521468.8
Smite #3- 466673.92
Smite #4- 417358.528
Smite #5- 372974.6752
Smite #6- 333029.2077
Smite #7- 297078.2869
Smite #8- 264722.4582
Smite #9- 235602.2124
Smite #10- 209393.9912
Smite #11- 185806.5921
Smite #12- 164577.9329
Smite #13- 145472.1396
Smite #14- 128276.9256
Smite #15- 112801.233
Smite #16- 98873.1097
Smite #17- 86337.79873
Smite #18- 75056.01886
Smite #19- 64902.41697
Smite #20- 55764.17527
Smite #21- 47539.75774
Smite #22- 40137.78197
Smite #23- 33476.00377
Smite #24- 27480.40339
Smite #25- 22084.36305
Smite #26- 17227.92675
Smite #27- 12857.13408
Smite #28- 8923.420672
Smite #29- 5383.078605
Smite #30- 2196.770745
Smite #31- 0


Astreon's Ward smite sequence vs Diablo/Baal (Total HP -6.25% --> 'NewResult' -1655 --> HP remaining)

Code
Smite #1- 607720
Smite #2- 568082.5
Smite #3- 530922.3438
Smite #4- 496084.6973
Smite #5- 463424.4037
Smite #6- 432805.3785
Smite #7- 404100.0423
Smite #8- 377188.7897
Smite #9- 351959.4903
Smite #10- 328307.0222
Smite #11- 306132.8333
Smite #12- 285344.5312
Smite #13- 265855.498
Smite #14- 247584.5294
Smite #15- 230455.4963
Smite #16- 214397.0278
Smite #17- 199342.2136
Smite #18- 185228.3253
Smite #19- 171996.555
Smite #20- 159591.7703
Smite #21- 147962.2847
Smite #22- 137059.6419
Smite #23- 126838.4143
Smite #24- 117256.0134
Smite #25- 108272.5126
Smite #26- 99850.48056
Smite #27- 91954.82553
Smite #28- 84552.64893
Smite #29- 77613.10837
Smite #30- 71107.2891
Smite #31- 65008.08353
Smite #32- 59290.07831
Smite #33- 53929.44842
Smite #34- 48903.85789
Smite #35- 44192.36677
Smite #36- 39775.34385
Smite #37- 35634.38486
Smite #38- 31752.23581
Smite #39- 28112.72107
Smite #40- 24700.676
Smite #41- 21501.88375
Smite #42- 18503.01602
Smite #41- 15691.57752
Smite #42- 13055.85393
Smite #43- 10584.86306
Smite #44- 8268.309119
Smite #45- 6096.539799
Smite #46- 4060.506062
Smite #47- 2151.724433
Smite #48- 362.2416559
Smite #49- 0


Sequence [31] + Sequence [49x2] = 129 Smites @ 6 FPA (4.1 Atk/s)= 31.46 Seconds.


Conclusion: Astreon's Iron Ward > Grief.
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#17
Oct 21 2010 09:03am
Hmm... 32.9 was the worst case scenario for grief though.
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#18
Oct 21 2010 10:38am
Quote (Synonym @ 21 Oct 2010 08:47)
Astreon's Iron Ward

Helm- Guillaume's Face. (Ort)
Shield- Upgraded Herald of Zakarum. (Um)
Amulet- Highlord's Wrath.
Armor- 'Duress' runeword, mage plate.
Gloves- Dracul's Grasp.
Boots- Goblin Toe.
Ring 1- Raven Frost.
Ring 2- Dwarf Star.
Belt- String of Ears.
Weapon- Astreon's Iron Ward
+Damage: +85

DPS Skills
20 Smite (Slvl 34) [+510% ED]
20 Fanaticism (Slvl 28) [+509% ED]
20 Holy Shield (Slvl 34) [+131-134 Smite damage]


Total Damage
(46+133+85)* (1+5.1+1.15+5.09+0.2) = 264*12.54 = 3,310.56 3,310
Raw-damage vs Mephisto: 3310*0.8 (-20%) = 2648
Raw-damage vs Diablo/Baal: 2577*0.5 (-50%) = 1655

Crushing Blow
100%.


Uber Mephisto/Diablo/Baal
Level: 110
HP: 650,000-660,000 [Average- 655,000]
Mephisto %DR: 20%. Crushing Blow- 12.5% *0.8 (-20%) = 10% [1/10]
Diablo/Baal %DR: 50%. Crushing Blow- 12.5% *0.5 (-50%) = 6.25% [1/16]

Astreon's Ward smite sequence vs Mephisto (Total HP -10% --> 'NewResult' -2648 --> HP remaining )

Code
Smite #1- 582352
Smite #2- 521468.8
Smite #3- 466673.92
Smite #4- 417358.528
Smite #5- 372974.6752
Smite #6- 333029.2077
Smite #7- 297078.2869
Smite #8- 264722.4582
Smite #9- 235602.2124
Smite #10- 209393.9912
Smite #11- 185806.5921
Smite #12- 164577.9329
Smite #13- 145472.1396
Smite #14- 128276.9256
Smite #15- 112801.233
Smite #16- 98873.1097
Smite #17- 86337.79873
Smite #18- 75056.01886
Smite #19- 64902.41697
Smite #20- 55764.17527
Smite #21- 47539.75774
Smite #22- 40137.78197
Smite #23- 33476.00377
Smite #24- 27480.40339
Smite #25- 22084.36305
Smite #26- 17227.92675
Smite #27- 12857.13408
Smite #28- 8923.420672
Smite #29- 5383.078605
Smite #30- 2196.770745
Smite #31- 0


Astreon's Ward smite sequence vs Diablo/Baal (Total HP -6.25% --> 'NewResult' -1655 --> HP remaining)

Code
Smite #1- 607720
Smite #2- 568082.5
Smite #3- 530922.3438
Smite #4- 496084.6973
Smite #5- 463424.4037
Smite #6- 432805.3785
Smite #7- 404100.0423
Smite #8- 377188.7897
Smite #9- 351959.4903
Smite #10- 328307.0222
Smite #11- 306132.8333
Smite #12- 285344.5312
Smite #13- 265855.498
Smite #14- 247584.5294
Smite #15- 230455.4963
Smite #16- 214397.0278
Smite #17- 199342.2136
Smite #18- 185228.3253
Smite #19- 171996.555
Smite #20- 159591.7703
Smite #21- 147962.2847
Smite #22- 137059.6419
Smite #23- 126838.4143
Smite #24- 117256.0134
Smite #25- 108272.5126
Smite #26- 99850.48056
Smite #27- 91954.82553
Smite #28- 84552.64893
Smite #29- 77613.10837
Smite #30- 71107.2891
Smite #31- 65008.08353
Smite #32- 59290.07831
Smite #33- 53929.44842
Smite #34- 48903.85789
Smite #35- 44192.36677
Smite #36- 39775.34385
Smite #37- 35634.38486
Smite #38- 31752.23581
Smite #39- 28112.72107
Smite #40- 24700.676
Smite #41- 21501.88375
Smite #42- 18503.01602
Smite #41- 15691.57752
Smite #42- 13055.85393
Smite #43- 10584.86306
Smite #44- 8268.309119
Smite #45- 6096.539799
Smite #46- 4060.506062
Smite #47- 2151.724433
Smite #48- 362.2416559
Smite #49- 0


Sequence [31] + Sequence [49x2] = 129 Smites @ 6 FPA (4.1 Atk/s)= 31.46 Seconds.


Conclusion: Astreon's Iron Ward > Grief.


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#19
Oct 21 2010 10:48am
who care a rand smith can uber easy so really care? no one
cuz a rand smith can easy uber with grief or lw with hoz or exile
smith can uber with about anything so no1 care

Quote (Kisssofdeath @ 11 Oct 2010 10:41)
You have way to much time on your hands. Get out and do something productive.


this imo also

get a life
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#20
Oct 21 2010 02:25pm
who the fuck uses gface when they have last wish?
lw>grief.

and my smiter does ut hella fast and hella easy with a black flail and griswolds shield lol

This post was edited by Downfall360 on Oct 21 2010 02:26pm
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