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Nov 20 2021 02:53pm
Hey tcpgueest

In reference to this post:

Quote (tcpgeest @ Nov 9 2021 10:47am)
With 90 IAS eTomb and 80% gear IAS you can hit 3 frames. Which I didn’t see as possible but with the 60 IAS armor it makes more sense to go eTomb.

With my specific eTomb and Archon Staff (332% and 397%). My eTomb at 3 frames is doing 500 more DPS before all other multipliers (click back a few pages for my DPS calculations). I also can unsocket my eTomb and get better jewels and hit potentially 354% ED. Making it really no contest.

I even did some math assuming a 4/4/4/4/6 eBotD Archon and 4/4/4/4/5 as well and they still both lag behind my current eTomb setup.

If you add a Faith merc to this and hit 3/3/3/3/4 it becomes an ever bigger gap.

I guess eTomb is still king for PvM.


It looks like you can hit a 3 frame EBOTD with a giant thresher without changing to much gear around. It needs a level 31 wearwolf and 150 off weapon ias:

There are a few options, but
4x ed/ias chest 60ias
M'avina's Helm with ed/ias 45ias
LoH 20ias
Nos Coil 10 ias
Highlords: 20ias

155ias

Not sure if you can number crunch that against an etomb


This post was edited by smykster on Nov 20 2021 02:53pm
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Quote (oscarmk @ Nov 20 2021 03:30pm)
So getting quite confised with this speed calculator: https://d2.lc/IAS/?char=3&charform=2&waffe=63&barbschwert=-1&infoWaffe1=two-handed+weapon+%5B10%5D&wIAS1=90&primaerwaffe=on&zweitwaffe=0&infoWaffe2=&wIAS2=0&IAS=0&skill=29&fana=0&frenzy=0&wolf=76&tempo=0&holyfrost=0&AnzFPA=4%2F4%2F4%2F4%2F7+frames+per+attack&AnzMax=further+IAS+useless&AnzFre=5.43+attacks+per+second

Is it confirmed that 90% ias tomb reaver + lvl 35 werewolf + 70% ias equipment reaches 3 frames?, this is quite a change because can use any armor you want, 2 socket helm with 30% ias + 20% amulet + 20% gloves and reach 3 frames


looks like you need 75 off gear ias to hit 3 frames for that

OR

lvl 38 WW and 70 off gear ias

This post was edited by smykster on Nov 20 2021 03:01pm
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Quote (Dying2Live @ Nov 20 2021 12:52pm)
Is there a definitive BiS list with the Ias changes now for PvM? What about charms?



Charms with a 2 handed weapon most definitely shape shifters with life, 3/20/20 only wins in 1 handed weapons like phase blades
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Quote (smykster @ Nov 20 2021 02:59pm)
looks like you need 75 off gear ias to hit 3 frames for that

OR

lvl 38 WW and 70 off gear ias



That’s what it seems like to me in calculator assuming 3.4 means 3 frames?, 38 WW seems easy 20 + 13 charms + 2 circlet with 2 os + 1 highlords + 2 cta + 2 spirit
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Nov 20 2021 03:16pm
Quote (oscarmk @ Nov 20 2021 04:04pm)
That’s what it seems like to me in calculator assuming 3.4 means 3 frames?, 38 WW seems easy 20 + 13 charms + 2 circlet with 2 os + 1 highlords + 2 cta + 2 spirit



Yeah super easy
Jalals 4
High lord 1
Fleahrender 3
Spirit 2
Torch 3
And 3 skillers
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Nov 20 2021 03:42pm
Quote (smykster @ Nov 20 2021 03:16pm)
Yeah super easy
Jalals 4
High lord 1
Fleahrender 3
Spirit 2
Torch 3
And 3 skillers


I think so, but you would probably want to use a 2 socket circlet, so you can keep fortitude or enigma for frw. One thing that isn’t clear to me is how 4.4, 4.2, 3.4 ans 3.2 translate into fury frames, anyone know? It seems like 4.4 is still 5 frames? Otherwise that would mean ebotd gpa can hit 4 frames without any ias in equipment but that does not seem to be the case in testing. Not sure if 4.2 means 4 frames, but that seems to be the case, 3.4 vs 3.2 I think both are 3 frames? But the initial hit is faster in 3.2

This post was edited by oscarmk on Nov 20 2021 03:44pm
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Quote (oscarmk @ Nov 20 2021 09:30pm)
So getting quite confised with this speed calculator: https://d2.lc/IAS/?char=3&charform=2&waffe=63&barbschwert=-1&infoWaffe1=two-handed+weapon+%5B10%5D&wIAS1=90&primaerwaffe=on&zweitwaffe=0&infoWaffe2=&wIAS2=0&IAS=0&skill=29&fana=0&frenzy=0&wolf=76&tempo=0&holyfrost=0&AnzFPA=4%2F4%2F4%2F4%2F7+frames+per+attack&AnzMax=further+IAS+useless&AnzFre=5.43+attacks+per+second

Is it confirmed that 90% ias tomb reaver + lvl 35 werewolf + 70% ias equipment reaches 3 frames?, this is quite a change because can use any armor you want, 2 socket helm with 30% ias + 20% amulet + 20% gloves and reach 3 frames


Lvl 35 werewolf is 75 SIAS
According to my excel sheet u need 73 gear ias to reach 3 frames.
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Quote (gel87 @ Nov 21 2021 03:02pm)
Lvl 35 werewolf is 75 SIAS
According to my excel sheet u need 73 gear ias to reach 3 frames.



Mmm that would be bad, will have to test again, needing 70% is a big deal for the equipment flexibility it offers
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Nov 21 2021 03:07pm
Quote (oscarmk @ Nov 21 2021 10:04pm)
Mmm that would be bad, will have to test again, needing 70% is a big deal for the equipment flexibility it offers


Lvl 38 werewolf (76 sias)
90 ias tomb
67 gear ias
3 frames
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Quote (gel87 @ Nov 21 2021 03:07pm)
Lvl 38 werewolf (76 sias)
90 ias tomb
67 gear ias
3 frames



I like this 😊, I tested it yesterday and it seemed that way to me
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