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Nov 22 2021 04:37am
3 shape, str, life, all res, attack rating per lv and 2 socket circlet/tiara would be quite nice. Or maybe 2soc COA is the new BIS?
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i play it at the moment with an 2 soc coa with two ed/ias jewels
coa is a very nice helm.
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i like the 2 socket crown of ages as well with 30ias socketed in, nosferatus belt on if i'm lazy and don't want to prebuff to 38

i've also been going with enigma + 2os 2dru 30frw helmet for crazy runspeed on solo runs
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I did some more testing with it using lvl 40 werewolf and 70% equipment IAS. I tested both a 100% wias and a 90% wias tomb reavers.

As per calculator 3.4 speed can be achieved with 90% wias + 38 WW + 70% eias. Testing this I did not see a visual diference in the first frame of the attack between 4.2 and 3.4, the following frames seem faster, but it is really hard to tell. I am not convinced 3.4 means 3 frames, but it is very fast that’s for sure, it is just really hard to tell visually.

I also tried the 100% tomb which got me to 3.2, in this one I can easily see the first frame is faster, following frames seem 3 frames, but again it is so fast it is hard to tell a difference, I used a 144 hz monitor for the test, but it is very hard to tell.

Anyway with this in mind I bought a 280% non eth tomb reaver, and was planning to go for 3x ed/ias which if perfect equal 400% ed, versus a implied 420% ed in a shaelshael perfect eth tomb reaver, only 45% eias is required for 3.2 in this case, and 50% at 100%, which might only be relevant if using a 45 ias helm, then can use any glove and amulet.

Anyone know exactly what 3.4 and 3.2 speed mean in the calculator?

This post was edited by oscarmk on Nov 24 2021 11:11am
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Something that is interesting is that if 3.2 is the only true 3 frames, then non eth tomb does almost same dps than ETH tomb… but of course if you only get a few hits in then eth would win (like in pvp), at the same tome that fast frame might be the difference between hit or miss, there’s also the potential of block locking them

Perfect 3 x 40/ias non eth = 400% ed x 1.33 (frame advantage) = 532 theorical ed equivalent
Perfect shaelshaelzod tomb = 280% ed x 1.5 (eth bonus) = 420% x 1.33(frame advantage) = 558.6% equivalent
Perfect 2x ed/ias and zod = 360% ed x 1.5 (eth bonus) = 540%

As you can see all 3 are fairly close, however the non eth, can use 45 ias helm, and free up gloves for steel ogre gauntlets and a huge life/stats +2 druid amulet

I think you probably have done some testing around this too, what do you think?

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Quote (oscarmk @ Nov 24 2021 06:09pm)
I did some more testing with it using lvl 40 werewolf and 70% equipment IAS. I tested both a 100% wias and a 90% wias tomb reavers.

As per calculator 3.4 speed can be achieved with 90% wias + 38 WW + 70% eias. Testing this I did not see a visual diference in the first frame of the attack between 4.2 and 3.4, the following frames seem faster, but it is really hard to tell. I am not convinced 3.4 means 3 frames, but it is very fast that’s for sure, it is just really hard to tell visually.

I also tried the 100% tomb which got me to 3.2, in this one I can easily see the first frame is faster, following frames seem 3 frames, but again it is so fast it is hard to tell a difference, I used a 144 hz monitor for the test, but it is very hard to tell.

Anyway with this in mind I bought a 280% non eth tomb reaver, and was planning to go for 3x ed/ias which if perfect equal 400% ed, versus a implied 420% ed in a shaelshael perfect eth tomb reaver, only 45% eias is required for 3.2 in this case, and 50% at 100%, which might only be relevant if using a 45 ias helm, then can use any glove and amulet.

Anyone know exactly what 3.4 and 3.2 speed mean in the calculator?


I would assume this:
(3+3+3+3+4) / 5 = 3,2 average fpa
(3+3+3+3+5) / 5 = 3,4 average fpa

So the difference is the initial hit(which also can be last in d2).

So they are both 3 fpa serial attacks. And 4 and 5 standard paw attack.

This post was edited by gel87 on Nov 24 2021 02:37pm
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Quote (gel87 @ Nov 24 2021 02:34pm)
I would assume this:
(3+3+3+3+4) / 5 = 3,2 average fpa
(3+3+3+3+5) / 5 = 3,4 average fpa

So the difference is the initial hit(which also can be last in d2).

So they are both 3 fpa serial attacks. And 4 and 5 standard paw attack.



That calculation sounds reasonable, that might be what it means
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Quote (oscarmk @ 24 Nov 2021 18:27)
Something that is interesting is that if 3.2 is the only true 3 frames, then non eth tomb does almost same dps than ETH tomb… but of course if you only get a few hits in then eth would win (like in pvp), at the same tome that fast frame might be the difference between hit or miss, there’s also the potential of block locking them

Perfect 3 x 40/ias non eth = 400% ed x 1.33 (frame advantage) = 532 theorical ed equivalent
Perfect shaelshaelzod tomb = 280% ed x 1.5 (eth bonus) = 420% x 1.33(frame advantage) = 558.6% equivalent
Perfect 2x ed/ias and zod = 360% ed x 1.5 (eth bonus) = 540%

As you can see all 3 are fairly close, however the non eth, can use 45 ias helm, and free up gloves for steel ogre gauntlets and a huge life/stats +2 druid amulet

^vyxar I think you probably have done some testing around this too, what do you think?


is this calculation considering that you can reach the 3,4 average fpa with the Perfect 2x ed/ias and zod = 360% ed x 1.5 (eth bonus) setup?
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Quote (Hasuki @ Nov 25 2021 03:32am)
is this calculation considering that you can reach the 3,4 average fpa with the Perfect 2x ed/ias and zod = 360% ed x 1.5 (eth bonus) setup?



No, this calculation is assuming 3.2 is the only true 3 frames, however it does seem like 3.4 should be 3/3/3/3/5. In which case I would say 2x ed/ias + zod is still best.
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(AverageDps = (allMin+allMax)/2* (1+((statbonus + gearEd + skillbonus+aurabonus) /100)) * (1+((((100-crit)/100)*ds+crit)) /100) * (1-(DR%/100)) - Direct Dr - MdrOverflow) * (25/((SumAllFpa) /numberOfAttacks))
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