Well I’m sorry Reading comprehension is hard but the ias requirements for the various awsm values is the same.

Awsm of - 20 had always required 63 ias to reach max trap

-20 is the speed of greater claw / feral

What has changed is that your trap speed is only based on the wsm of your main hand claw, not the average of your offhand + mainhand

The 55 ias you are referring to was the required ias at awsm = -25. Which is the average of greater talon in off hand+ greater claw is main. As (-30 + - 20 )/ 2 = -25

The ias requirements did not change.

What has changed is blizzard no longer takes the average.

Because apparently this was to hard to people to comprehend. So they had to dumb down the game.

Still sounds like a nerf to me. I just memorized the important numbers not the “how” or “why”

Put a *Talon in your main hand for WSM=-30 and you only need 42ias. Now it's a buff.

Put a war fist in your offhand, still only 42 ias.

Just fucks with attack rating (allegedly) for ww.

55 was never an important number.

Greater claws were always budget temps

problem with that is now your higher damage claw is in the offhand position, and the first hitcheck of whirl is primary claw only.

it's kinda both a buff and a nerf.
it buffs the builds that already use a fast claw primary by allowing them to use a heavier hitting offhand claw.
it nerfs slow big damage claws in the primary slow because now there is no way to average out their base speed with a fast offhand claw, so you are stuck with needing to reach very high ias bps for those claws or have bad bps.

edit: and also wsm bug and awsm are gone, so big nerf there

This post was edited by Ziecheik on May 10 2022 11:42am

Yep, that's exactly what I said about it fucking with AR.

Almost makes slow fools OH unimportant, rather have a 450ED with AR from charms/rings/vis vs casters

This post was edited by Evicted on May 10 2022 12:55pm

It’s not allegedly. It does.

Smh.

It’s not uncommon in d2 legacy for war fist to be in main hand with Suwayyah chaos for ghost.

In fact, it’s most of the time the best claw combo for ghost, assuming top end gear.


And given trap lock is complete shit now on d2r, trap speed for ghost in particular is even less valuable than it is on legacy

This post was edited by Bui6Pays40Percent4Wins on May 10 2022 01:00pm

Lol I believe you, but I haven't seen the experiment repeated on D2R, so... allegedly.

does off hand claw matter if using Phoenix Strike or Dragon Talon?