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May 22 2022 01:47pm
So are sins just absolute garbage now or what??
Suwayah chaos main hand not good?
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May 22 2022 04:42pm
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So are sins just absolute garbage now or what??
Suwayah chaos main hand not good?


That's what I'm trying to figure out if their worth building for pubs? Is the best setup a trap/ww hybrid now?
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That's what I'm trying to figure out if their worth building for pubs? Is the best setup a trap/ww hybrid now?



Idk no one responds
Looks like they garbage I guess lulz wasted a 95 sin

Do I need suwayyah on chaos claw?



I think you want ww trap as back up
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May 22 2022 04:46pm
You want a greater talon of feral talon with 42% ias between the claw and gear, the off had type doesn't matter anymore so for a hybrid use a the high damage ones
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May 22 2022 05:08pm
Quote (Necromania @ May 22 2022 06:44pm)
Idk no one responds
Looks like they garbage I guess lulz wasted a 95 sin

Do I need suwayyah on chaos claw?



I think you want ww trap as back up



Suwayyah or scissor suwayyah , essentially the highest damage claws because it will be your off hand claw and has no effect on ww or trap laying speed. There was a pretty good discussion on this in the last few pages of this thread.

I wouldn’t say sins are garbage now, hybrid and even ghost sins can still be really effective (I pub with one all the time). It’s not dominate now with ww being broken and the fixes to FHR.

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May 22 2022 05:09pm
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Suwayyah or scissor suwayyah , essentially the highest damage claws because it will be your off hand claw and has no effect on ww or trap laying speed. There was a pretty good discussion on this in the last few pages of this thread.

I wouldn’t say sins are garbage now, hybrid and even ghost sins can still be really effective (I pub with one all the time). It’s not dominate now with ww being broken and the fixes to FHR.



So what needs to be in my
Mainland then

What about suwayah chaos mainhand Phoenix shield off hand
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May 22 2022 05:37pm
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Suwayyah or scissor suwayyah , essentially the highest damage claws because it will be your off hand claw and has no effect on ww or trap laying speed. There was a pretty good discussion on this in the last few pages of this thread.

I wouldn’t say sins are garbage now, hybrid and even ghost sins can still be really effective (I pub with one all the time). It’s not dominate now with ww being broken and the fixes to FHR.


Do you go more trap or ww for build?
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May 22 2022 06:27pm
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So what needs to be in my
Mainland then

What about suwayah chaos mainhand Phoenix shield off hand


So if you were doing a hybrid build you would want a pure trap claw / plague / fools, as a GT or Runic for the trap laying speed.

I have never tried with phoenix shield, although I would assume you wouldn't be as effective because it is hard to reach max block with phoenix shield and when you have x2 claws you can use claw block which literally will block anything.

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Do you go more trap or ww for build?


I do more ww, which in D2R isn't as effective as LoD because of the ww mechanics... still fun although and still can get some good pks in pub games. At some point I have faith they will fix the ww mechanic.
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May 22 2022 06:28pm
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So if you were doing a hybrid build you would want a pure trap claw / plague / fools, as a GT or Runic for the trap laying speed.

I have never tried with phoenix shield, although I would assume you wouldn't be as effective because it is hard to reach max block with phoenix shield and when you have x2 claws you can use claw block which literally will block anything.



I do more ww, which in D2R isn't as effective as LoD because of the ww mechanics... still fun although and still can get some good pks in pub games. At some point I have faith they will fix the ww mechanic.


What happend to ww? I'm playing catch up it seems
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May 22 2022 06:40pm
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What happend to ww? I'm playing catch up it seems



This sums up most of the problems.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/d2r/t/24-patch-ww-barbarian-is-still-bugged-unplayable/100060

Essentially there is something off with the animation.

I remember in LoD I could just ww away from smites and they would always eat ww before hitting me. Now it is like the first frames don't matter or it just doesn't work, so you just have to get a little craftier. Still can be effective, but doesn't work like it use to.
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