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Mar 27 2022 05:56pm
All the following information are my personal opinions and based on my tests of all past PTR-Versions and could still be changed until the official patch 2.4 release!

Facts

• Trap laying speed is determined by a combination of weapon type and IAS (increased attack speed) breakpoints. 9 FPA (frames per animation) is the fastest trap laying speed possible, while 4 FPA is the max for whirlwind
• Offhand IAS does not impact FPA anymore (listed in patch-notes under dual-wielding weapons)
• This means that the offhand-claw type is no longer relevant for the IAS-calculations (like a shield) and all offhand-claws can reach from now on the 9 FPA max. trap laying speed breakpoint
• The new required IAS for 9 FPA changes for every clawtype
• The 4 FPA max. whirlwind IAS breakpoint remains unchanged
• All versions of AWSM (average weapon speed modifier) have been removed from the game

New 9 FPA / IAS requirements

• Greater Talons / Runic Talons - 42 IAS
• Feral Claws - 63 IAS
• Suwayyah / Scissors Suwayyah - 125 IAS
• War Fist - 174 IAS

Check it out

• Open the D2R Assassin IAS-calculator: http://d2r-sin-ias.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com
• Choose mainhand (for example Feral Claws)
• Choose no offhand
• Check the below listed table for 9 FPA
• You realize that you will need 63 IAS 9 FPA with Feral Claws mainhand now (before patch 2.4 you could use Feral Claws mainhand and Runic Talons or Greater Talons offhand and only needed 52 IAS)

New Claw-Meta

• Trapsin: Mainhand [Trap Claws] Greater Talons or Runic Talons + Offhand [Trap Claws] any clawtype
• Hybsin/Spidersin: Mainhand [Fury/Cruel/Fools Claws] Runic Talons + Offhand [Chaos Claws] Suwayyah or Scissors Suwayyah
• Ghostsin: Mainhand [Cruel/Fools Claws] War Fist + Offhand [Chaos Claws] Suwayyah or Scissors Suwayyah

Nice to know

• Suwayyah and Scissors Suwayyah bases (especially perfect ones) will probably dramatically increase in price, because of a higher request
• Runic Talons and Greater Talons bases will probably decrease a bit in value, since they will be only solid fury bases (mainhand) and not anymore also good chaos bases (offhand) compared to the high damage bases like Suwayyah
• Battle Cestus / Wrist Sword / Feral Claws will probably decrease in value as well as they are not optimal claws anymore and near impossible to reach 9 FPA trap laying speed
• All types of slow offhand claws (for example 5ls 5mb suwayyah) will be useable again from now on and as a result their price should increase aswell
• Cruel and especially Fools Claws will be more important, because the updated Martial Arts and Blade Abilities can miss now and are dependent on mainhand weapon damage and attack rating

Importance of Attack Rating

• 3 following examples (1850def, 7000def, 10000def)
• AR = Own Attack Rating
• D = Opponent Defense
• LVL = Own Character Level
• DLVL = Opponent Character Level
• Chance = Chance to hit the opponent


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Mar 27 2022 06:20pm
Nice!
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Mar 27 2022 06:41pm
Great Stuff here!
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Mar 27 2022 06:45pm
damn son, great work... Thanks alot for this!
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Mar 27 2022 06:46pm
Solid info

I'll have to update the ias calculator to remove average wsm and auto wsm


Confused about this though:
"The new required IAS for 9 FPA changes for every clawtype"

From the rest of the post I dont think this actually changed? Seems that it is no longer using offhand to calculate wsm, but ias required for each wsm value appears to be the same

2x gts has always been 42 ias, 2x ferals has always been 63 etc

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Mar 27 2022 06:58pm
:hail:

this also proves defense is vital.

making perf items more valuable

This post was edited by zShada on Mar 27 2022 07:02pm
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Quote (Azn Masta @ 28 Mar 2022 02:20)
Nice!

Quote (DeathsMajesty @ 28 Mar 2022 02:41)
Great Stuff here!

Quote (brewzer @ 28 Mar 2022 02:45)
damn son, great work... Thanks alot for this!

Quote (BluStalker @ 28 Mar 2022 02:57)
:thumbsup:

Quote (zShada @ 28 Mar 2022 02:58)
:hail:

this also proves defense is vital.

making perf items more valuable

Thanks! :hug:

Quote (urkel182 @ 28 Mar 2022 02:46)
Solid info

I'll have to update the ias calculator to remove average wsm and auto wsm

Confused about this though:
"The new required IAS for 9 FPA changes for every clawtype"

From the rest of the post I dont think this actually changed? Seems that it is no longer using offhand to calculate wsm, but ias required for each wsm value appears to be the same

2x gts has always been 42 ias, 2x ferals has always been 63 etc

Until 2.4 you reach 9 FPA with 52 IAS, if you had a Greater Talons (mainhand) and Feral Claws (offhand). In 2.4 the needed IAS changes from 52 IAS to 63 IAS, because the claw type of the offhand dont impact the calculations anymore.
For Hybrid / Spider Assassins you used Runic Talons or the combination of Runic Talons + Feral Claws to hit the 9 FPA with a total IAS of 42 (in case of RT + RT) and 52 IAS (in case of RT + FC).
If you used beside the Runic Talons (mainhand) a slower claw for example Suwayyah (offhand) you would need a total IAS of 75 to hit 9 FPA. Check the example: https://i.imgur.com/PRVuudQ.jpeg
But with the upcoming patch 2.4 you can use a Runic Talons (mainhand) with a Suwayyah (offhand) and just need a total IAS of 42 to hit 9 FPA. Check the example: https://i.imgur.com/SOt7WL2.jpeg

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Mar 27 2022 07:11pm
is this true? no more awsm?

this would be a good change imo
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Mar 27 2022 07:11pm
Dont forget the blade claws. Ethereal plague with 3 blade fury etc
Or rare war fist eth 2 all 3 bf adds
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