Those claws are cool guess kicker doesn't use eth also no skills on them

This post was edited by addone on Jun 26 2020 05:01am

yes, they are as basic as u get them, probarly muchmuch better ones exists. ^^

I have been trying to buy one like those for one year without luck

Nice guide bro

I would go for an elemental kicksin over this though

Assassin should essentially never use angelic

Since its quite informative guide on assa i can take some on combining poison sources which u can do for fun.

When combining charget's from plague javelins and psn dmg with a high level venom it can result in a pretty sick dmg.
But its often close to useless due to Attack rating and the fact that forexample plague cloud needs a direct hit with a rolled hit(piercing both defense and block).

In this example we use a 100% precast sin:
Precast: Level 57venom. 50% bramble, 25% trang, 10% x both claws, 10% helm.
Duel: 25% from trangs.

Level 57 venom is 1680 average dmg over 0,4 secs:
Total on melee that is: 1680 * 2,05*1,25 = 4305
Total on ranged that is: 1680 * 2,05 = 3444
Frames: 0,4*25 = 10

Level 8 psn dagger, from chargets(via knife/dagger, ring is max lvl 5):
(82+103)/2*1,25 = 115,625 average dmg over 4,8 secs.
170% ar
Frames: 4,8*25 = 120

Level 7 plague javelin from gargoyl's bite deals:
497,5 average over 7 secs
497,5 * 1,25 = 621 over 7 secs
Frames: 7*25 = 175
Adds % ar which does not work... ^^

Bit rates (Dmg*256/frame) :
Venom melee: 4305 * 256 / 10 = 110208
Venom ranged: 3444 * 256 / 10 = 88166
Psn dagger: 115,6 * 256 / 120 = 246
Plague Javelin: 621 * 256 / 185 = 859

The combined time this will be active is:
Psn dagger:
Frames: 10+120 = 130
Seconds: (10+120)/25 = 5,2 in normal // 10,4 seconds in hell (based on enemies with 0 plr gear, which is -100plr in hell)

Plague javelin:
Frames: 10+175 = 185
Seconds: (10+175)/25 = 7,4 seconds.

Combined dmg (dmg*frame/256) :
Psn dagger: (247+110208) * 130 / 256 = 56090 over 5,2 seconds.

But since we duel in Hell(-100plr) and we also wanna take account of enemy plr, which in this example is set to 0 we use this formula instead:
dmg*frame/256*(1-(-100+pldr)/100) :
Psn dagger: (247+110208) * 130 / 256 * (1-(-100+0)/100) = 112180 dmg over 10,4 seconds!
Plague javelin: (859+88166) * 185 / 256 * (1-(-100+0)/100) = 128668 dmg over 14,8 seconds!


The ar is the issue... Ranged skill ar% is bugged and dont work:
So only AR% sources are:
AR% in poison dagger skill (which also be have the fool's mod baked in)
218% ar from enchant
AR% = 1*lvl from visio helm

Example on ar with a fool's knife/lvl 8 psn dagger/117ar ring + 108ar ring/5 x 17ar scs / 140 dex got this final ar:
((16,5*92)+(17*5)+117+108+(140*5)-35+15) * (1+((170+218)/100) = 12239 ar

meanwhile same gear + gargoy's psn javelin would have: 3148 ar.

To know what dmg output would be you can just multiply with factor for his res and pvp penatlty, since plr is already counted for:
CombinedDMG * (1+(100-PsnResists)/100) * 0,17
112180 * ((100-75)/100) * 0,17 = 4767

This can also be boosted by facet's and such.
Facets will also tap on the effect of enemies plr equipment.
-5 enemy poison res = -5 to his total pr, and -5 to his total plr. (ceiling is ofc -100)

This post was edited by gel87 on Sep 7 2020 10:22am

So if any1 would like to try a psn dagger sin there are some different approches:

Fanged knife (-20wsm):
Prefix:
fool's
2soc
Master's(150ed/250ar) /// cruel (300% ed) /// strange (300ar) /// Serpent's ( 11-20mana) /// single res /// elemental dmg
Suffix:
40ias
lvl 8 psn dagger (60 charget's)
5 ctc amp

Only:
fool's
2soc
40ias
lvl 8 psn dagger is needed,
but if u want to combine with kick 5ctc amp is awsome, as well as increasing OW dmg.
And the 3rd prefix can help in any form.

A perf lvl 99 build 102fcr can reach:
15410 ar. Included 300ar mod, 120ar x 2 rings, 5 x 36ar scs
3,12 attacks pr sec on normal attack with bos + shield build.

Can be socet with:
UM UM
BER BER
BER UM
ETH ETH
ETH BER
ETH UM
Facet Facet

If u wanna inlcude facets the real dmg in hell is:
Bit Rate sources Summed*frameSummed/256*(1-(-100+pldr-Facet)/100)

If u want full dmg dealth to enemy in 1 formula its:
BitRateSummed*frameSummed/256*(1-(-100+pldr-Facet)/100)*0,17*((100-enemyPR)/100)

If u wanna combine with -20/20 jmod, facet's in wep, facet's in helm ur suddenly 1 tapping barbs i would guess. Just remember -100 is floor.
PLDR in excel:
*(IF((1-(-100+pldr-Facet)/100);<-99;-100;(1-(-100+pldr-Facet)/100)))
Which means: IF result of formula is below -99; then answere is -100; else its answere of formula.

PSN res in excel:
*(IF(((100-enemyPR)/100);<-99;-100;((100-enemyPR)/100)))
Which means: IF result of formula is below -99; then answere is -100; else its answere of formula.

Trangs + jmod with facets deals: 5530 vs 75pr.
Add facet in wep its: 5911
Add also 2 facet in helm: 6293
(this is without facet's direct dmg)

This post was edited by gel87 on Sep 8 2020 03:12am

I played around with adding scs of different sources but as i could understand it, it's bitrate is calculated via its own seperate dmg over x seconds.
And then all the bit rates are added and multiplied with venom+psn dagger combined frame.
But their bit rate are so low.
I tried with 1 x facet, 1 x 313/11sec, 1 x 451/12sec, 1 x 251/10sec, 1 x 100/5sec and 1 x 175/6sec.
But their individual bit rate was so low that it had close to zero effect on output dmg.
4862 instead of 4767. (real output)

Either that, or it wont add anyway(overwritten by venom/psn dagger dmg)

Can any1 confirm that?

Okay, now i found everthing needed for psn dagger sin:
Level 99
Psn dagger lvl 8 + venom lvl 57.
105% psn when precast, 25% psn when duel.
Fool's knife ar: 1633
Gear: 2 x 120ar rings + (5*36) scs = 420
197 dex needed for mb with stormshield: 965 ar

Without visio: 16194 ar
With visio: 19479 ar

Simulated enemy level 99:
15000 defense
0 pldr(-100)
75 pr

Hit chance vs 0% block with visio: 56%
Hit chance vs 0% block without visio: 51%
Chance to hit vs 75% block with visio: 14%
Chance to hit vs 75% block without visio: 12%

Life taken from enemy after all factors:
Dmg in normal: 2405
Dmg in hell: 4811

Dmg withonly preclaws 6venom(10% psn) * 2 at switch. (bo from team-mate) :
20+2+2+1+1+8+3+1 = 39 <- Valk 08+gores+102fcr build.
45% when cast/25% when duel:
2151 life taken in hell.

Dropping the psn scs, they give shit all.

If you kick them first with BERBER rune a barb is gonna be left 1 lifed after this psn.

This post was edited by gel87 on Sep 8 2020 08:12am

This part was wrong xD
Its:
=AllBitRateSummed*SkillframeSummed/256*0,17*((100-PRes)/100)*(IF((1-(-100+PLR-Facet)/100)>1,99;2;(1-(-100+PLR-Facet)/100)))
I did not add the IF sentence towards psn res, as i don't use it that way.

This post was edited by gel87 on Sep 8 2020 08:04am