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Oct 10 2018 04:30pm
Quote (slushslush @ Oct 10 2018 05:14pm)
He is right though.

Explain how he isn’t?

Fish heal

Hybrid heal

Win the Game


Quote (McDavid @ Oct 10 2018 05:18pm)
Idk you sound pretty clueless to me, are you 12?

If you have good gear and play smart, you can no regen any class any level solo
If you have good gear and are dumb you will need to regen every 5 kills
If you have bad gear and are dumb you will slow down every climb you are a part of
If you have bad gear and play smart you can get 10-20 kills/regen and/or be a helpful member in a group


Warm light token is dumb. Can I also store a well for when I need it? Or a spin?


I'm sorry, I forget that none of you play hc. Both of you play only on tutorial core, where the supply of good/overpowered gear is overflowing and groups are easy to come by. On hc, though, both gear and groups are almost nonexistent. Those with better-than-average gear will never sell them unless you offer 5-10x its value. You can't speak for hc players, so your opinions at this point are moot. Like, right now, I unlocked ninja 3 months ago and I still haven't completed a MQ with that new class yet because I have no MQ gear, and not enough fg to buy any. So my ninja has been sitting at Level 45 for months now. It is no wonder the current hc season is nearly 3 years old now.

iZi and I both play hc only. Warm light token would be a huge boon. But of course neither of you would have any clue because neither of you play hc... :rolleyes:
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Oct 10 2018 04:34pm
Quote (pwb3 @ Oct 10 2018 06:30pm)
I'm sorry, I forget that none of you play hc. Both of you play only on tutorial core, where the supply of good/overpowered gear is overflowing and groups are easy to come by. On hc, though, both gear and groups are almost nonexistent. Those with better-than-average gear will never sell them unless you offer 5-10x its value. You can't speak for hc players, so your opinions at this point are moot. Like, right now, I unlocked ninja 3 months ago and I still haven't completed a MQ with that new class yet because I have no MQ gear, and not enough fg to buy any. So my ninja has been sitting at Level 45 for months now. It is no wonder the current hc season is nearly 3 years old now.

iZi and I both play hc only. Warm light token would be a huge boon. But of course neither of you would have any clue because neither of you play hc... :rolleyes:



I’m. Not speaking for hc players.

But it sure as hell seems like your speaking for soft core players.

The game is the game. What u get we get.

Imagine how much more you guys will cry

This post was edited by slushslush on Oct 10 2018 04:35pm
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Oct 10 2018 04:36pm
Quote (pwb3 @ Oct 10 2018 05:30pm)
I'm sorry, I forget that none of you play hc. Both of you play only on tutorial core, where the supply of good/overpowered gear is overflowing and groups are easy to come by. On hc, though, both gear and groups are almost nonexistent. Those with better-than-average gear will never sell them unless you offer 5-10x its value. You can't speak for hc players, so your opinions at this point are moot. Like, right now, I unlocked ninja 3 months ago and I still haven't completed a MQ with that new class yet because I have no MQ gear, and not enough fg to buy any. So my ninja has been sitting at Level 45 for months now. It is no wonder the current hc season is nearly 3 years old now.

iZi and I both play hc only. Warm light token would be a huge boon. But of course neither of you would have any clue because neither of you play hc... :rolleyes:


You are surely among the elite.
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Oct 10 2018 05:21pm
I like the randomness of it. It's like finding a health shrine or well in Diablo 2
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Oct 10 2018 05:33pm
Quote (McDavid @ Oct 10 2018 04:18pm)
Idk you sound pretty clueless to me, are you 12?

If you have good gear and play smart, you can no regen any class any level solo
If you have good gear and are dumb you will need to regen every 5 kills
If you have bad gear and are dumb you will slow down every climb you are a part of
If you have bad gear and play smart you can get 10-20 kills/regen and/or be a helpful member in a group


Warm light token is dumb. Can I also store a well for when I need it? Or a spin?


Damn I must be dumb, unless there is a strat out there that I'm not aware of not sure how a monk/ninja can no regen these levels outside of having godly gear and going hybrid which seems to slow you down either way having to heal up a bunch. I feel like I have good gear on Sammy and set my skills for solo and still am forced to town once around 75% on SC. On HC I town twice for safety usually from level 71-73 and I assume 73 is not that bad compared to 75+.
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Quote (Joshie @ Oct 11 2018 04:16am)
No your climb wouldn't be influenced at all. The amount of times this exact scenario is going to occur is negligent

Hitting a warm light while you're full life and mana? Like who cares


Let us take Mirror Maze for example, the "Warm Light Token" no matter how negligent it is would be of great help doing this objective, whether it is used by the Caster/Healer or Tank/Melee characters in group. So in fact, it does have some influence. You don't need to care, but being close-minded to its' benefit is argumentative by any standard.

Quote (TTim @ Oct 11 2018 08:29am)
i mean im sure there is plenty of things u can improve, like how and wich skills you use.. im not here to teach you, you have very good slashers in your guild. if u have trouble killing eps, maybe your abilities was wasted prior to the encounter, im not saying last levels are easy by any means, but it is the end, i expect it to be hard.

i too find my self in situation where 3 regular mobs kill my full hp bar. i make up for this storing good shrines, having fishes and going hybrid on all my melee builds, i never need regen time! especially not with the new improved loot


In the quote it seems you are preaching and in denial at the same time. You have had your HP wiped out by 3 normal monsters even though you stack up shrines, use fish and comfry, use your abilities as intended still??? All it means is that everyone at some time or another will or have encountered this, but, with higher levelling to MQ, it gets longer and happens more frequently.

Quote (slushslush @ Oct 11 2018 10:14am)
He is right though.

Explain how he isn’t? - Fish heal - Hybrid heal - Win the Game


There are things there that you don't need with the right gear and abilities chosen, as well as when exploring or whistling.

Quote (slushslush @ Oct 11 2018 11:34am)
I’m. Not speaking for hc players.

But it sure as hell seems like your speaking for soft core players. - The game is the game. What u get we get. - Imagine how much more you guys will cry


He is not speaking for SC players, nor are you speaking for HC players, he is speaking about what is available (or not) on each core.
This idea is useful for both cores, it maybe minor to SC because of what is available there. It is NOT however useful if you "Whistle" 90% of the time.

Quote (McDavid @ Oct 11 2018 10:18am)
Idk you sound pretty clueless to me, are you 12?

If you have good gear and play smart, you can no regen any class any level solo
If you have good gear and are dumb you will need to regen every 5 kills
If you have bad gear and are dumb you will slow down every climb you are a part of
If you have bad gear and play smart you can get 10-20 kills/regen and/or be a helpful member in a group


Warm light token is dumb. Can I also store a well for when I need it? Or a spin?


Your example is misleading:

Playing smart with good gear will still mean you have to regen on certain unlocked characters. inb4UcanDoThisNThat.
... Good gear is okay, but it is not great gear. Shrine: Yes you can shrine, you can also run low of shrines @ 80+ levels and fewer drops from EPs / Normal, fish is basically stopping to have lunch (just like regen with benefits).

How does a dumb player use good gear or a good player use bad gear? Only answer is Bufcore for a smart player with bad gear.
As for group play, it is not brain surgery, the only bad thing is a player NOT clicking.

The "Warm Light Token" is dumb in your opinion, you can not even identify its' benefit. To me Fish are just consumables where one has to either use their time fishing and ignore gaining profs on weapon/cast or heals... or use fg to buy stacks instead of saving up the little fg to buy better equipment. The fish aren't dumb, in comparison, it is just as useful as a Warm Light token.
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Oct 10 2018 08:05pm
Dumb idea for reasons others have already stated.
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Oct 10 2018 10:13pm
Quote (Zuko @ Oct 11 2018 03:05pm)
Dumb idea for reasons others have already stated.


So, you don't have a reason other than following like a lamb? What reasons? No one that posted put up any valid point why it is dumb they just expressed their feelings.

Fishing / Cooking / Suffuscensing / Glyphing to me is wasting time, in a sense they are dumb skills, but, they have a purpose to the game and the players that want to spend their time on them.

I spend my time trying to gain profs with weapons/casting and healing through exploring catacombs & maps, so when I spend 1 hour from level 55-60 I gain those profs, on top of that I have a chance to find an item, so for every 1 hour to gain 5 levels starting @ 55-70, that is 3 very well spent hours. and when using my Guardian, I don't use Fish / Comfry or Regen, only on rare occasions will I shrine because I encountered a few waves of Evil Presence.

It maybe dumb in a sense to some, but, it also has a purpose that is different to other aspects of the game, the only compatible thing... Enigmatic Symbol... you come across that and you get free glyphs, whether they are useful mods or not, funny thing is, since testing QD / CS / LS, I don't even use those enigmatic symbol @ 55-70.
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Oct 10 2018 10:22pm
I like the idea for new players.
Just got back, level 45 :P
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Oct 11 2018 12:10am
Quote (izParagonzi @ Oct 10 2018 10:13pm)
So, you don't have a reason other than following like a lamb? What reasons? No one that posted put up any valid point why it is dumb they just expressed their feelings.

Fishing / Cooking / Suffuscensing / Glyphing to me is wasting time, in a sense they are dumb skills, but, they have a purpose to the game and the players that want to spend their time on them.

I spend my time trying to gain profs with weapons/casting and healing through exploring catacombs & maps, so when I spend 1 hour from level 55-60 I gain those profs, on top of that I have a chance to find an item, so for every 1 hour to gain 5 levels starting @ 55-70, that is 3 very well spent hours. and when using my Guardian, I don't use Fish / Comfry or Regen, only on rare occasions will I shrine because I encountered a few waves of Evil Presence.

It maybe dumb in a sense to some, but, it also has a purpose that is different to other aspects of the game, the only compatible thing... Enigmatic Symbol... you come across that and you get free glyphs, whether they are useful mods or not, funny thing is, since testing QD / CS / LS, I don't even use those enigmatic symbol @ 55-70.


I'm not going to take 3 hours longer on MQ's because I want to keep working on my fire prof as a Monk. Why are you playing like a moron to boost your heal by 3 ee over the next 6 months on your guardian.

You play the game differently than anyone. If that's how you enjoy the game, then fair play. You're still not realizing that this suggestion is completely useless. YOU WANT TO BANK YOUR WARM LIGHTS ON THE ODD CHANCE YOU FIND THEM WHEN YOU ARE COMPLETELY FULL LIFE AND FULL MANA? OTHERWISE THE WARM LIGHT WOULD GO OFF AS NORMAL AND HEAL YOU TO FULL? BUT MAYBE JUST MAYBE YOU LAND ON ANOTHER ONE INSTANTLY RENDERING IT USELESS?

Like get over it, think of a new idea while you're using your 10 quick draw charm or whatever.
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