Incoming BRICK of text. I've explained this so many times and I'm hoping I won't have to do it anymore after this essay post.


It's not about remaking it exactly how it was, I've already explained this soooooo many times, but I guess I can try just once more.

Them changing how every single task went down, how they got there, what it was, even the prizes wouldn't have bothered me. Them adding characters or changing the importance of characters would have been fine too. Hell, I would have even been fine with them changing the motives/aspirations/overall feel of the characters and that what would have been fine too.

The problem is consistency, poor development, plot holes, shitty acting, and just a generally bad movie.


As I've already said multiple times, the first event took billions of people five years to figure out to try going backwards in a racing game, and it's only figured out because someone watched a video of the guy who created the tournament (a publicly available video) where he looks directly at the screen and tells you what to do.... You have to immediately acknowledge that every single person in this universe is a complete fucking idiot, there's no other way around it now, and that hurts the film. Okay, maybe it was just an oversight, a fluke. Then we've got Sorrento, a guy tasked with heading up the most important division for the largest corporation in the world (minus Gregarious Simulation Systems), who's a complete fucking idiot and everyone he works with is also a complete fucking idiot. The entire time the movie talks down to the audience. If you want to go with that it's "for kids", why the fuck didn't it have a G or even a PG rating? At best (worst?) you could claim this is for young adults and it's painfully patronizing the whole time to anyone over the age of 10. Blah already pointed out a couple of moments where they just say fuck it and throw in shit from the book that's never even mentioned.

Then we've got the character development. The forced romance just felt so fucking awkward and dropping the "I love you" just fucking instantly into them meeting vs ya know, waiting until later in the movie to have it actually make sense was too hard for them to figure out. They just didn't even try to make it flow or to create bonds between the characters. They didn't try to stimulate the audience with anything other than visuals and I guess some people feel they succeeded there, but I thought the visuals looked like ass too. It was a constant stream of half-assed fucking pandering. They even go into how everything is about the 80s blah blah blah, yet every single fucking person in 2045 is rocking shit from 201x? It's just fucking lazy and stupid. There is PLENTY of iconic shit from the 80s (a fuck ton of it available in the source material) that they could have pulled from to create a visually stunning, relatable and fucking relevant feel.

You're not wrong for liking it, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and tons of people are easily entertained by the same shit over and over that I think is terrible. That's totally fine and I understand the appeal, it just doesn't work on me. The problem is sitting here and trying to tell me this movie was even okay or anything other than the lazy senseless cash grab of fucking mediocrity that it was, which is just and there's no justifying every single fucking mistake both myself and Blah have pointed out, because what it comes down to is lazy and bad planning and execution on soooo many different levels.

The argument of "Uh you just have standards, that's stupid" or "That's just your fault for not being able to accept it". No... I fucking love fantasy shit, and I don't even need it to be amazingly well written or anything, but it has to actually fucking try to be anything other than a cash grab, which is blatantly all this was.... I still don't know how anyone can go and see that movie and think anything other than "Man, Spielberg just doesn't give a fuck about the audience anymore, huh?".

I'm happy for you if you enjoyed the ride, but understand that people who need more than this Michael Bayesque phoned in garbage are not wrong either for being able to call out bad shit for being bad.

This post was edited by jadeoshbogosh on Aug 13 2018 04:20pm

Glad I didn’t waste my time with this movie

I agree with 100% of post 40 and for the most part post 41. I know this topic has nothing to do with starwars but most of the issues in 41 I feel apply to starwars too. Forced romance part for sure.

Yeah I guess they could've done a better job with how this one kid was able to come out on top over the billions rather than some not so ambiguous video that anyone can access but I guess the audience for the most part doesnt care so they didn't. It's not like HP or REI's reasoning for being the chosen one is all that stimulating. I was able to get past that and enjoy it. And as far as the rating goes if it was G it would probably have a negative effect on the sales. I don't even pay attention to parental ratings anymore. I think everyone in this thread agrees the movie is great background noise at best.

"senseless cash grab of fucking mediocrity that it was" = starwars for me
the forced romance with Finn and Rose is way worse than some young boy falling for a "badass" girl instantly. i mean havent u been in middle/high school and just fell for a girl for 0 reason. its not really that forced imo.

"Also, if you cant suspend disbelief and reasoning for 2 hours of your life then stop going to movies. " basically this..which is why i brought up face/off, a ridiculous movie but entertaining as fuck

This post was edited by MutatedBeaveR on Aug 13 2018 07:32pm

How can you agree mostly with what I say and then respond entirely with either irrelevant or contradictory information in your post....

All you do is keep bringing up other shows and movies and that are not at all relevant. You disliking SW doesn't make RPO a better movie. The writing, acting, directing, and every aspect I can think of was far superior in TFA then RPO and it's not even close. TLJ being an absolute fucking disaster was pretty close to RPO, but even that was still better. I've said multiple times on this forum and once in this thread that I don't any of the new SW movies, so I'm not sure why you keep bringing it up.

This has never been about having a problem with the "the chosen one". A rag time group of kids or a single kid saving the world, or whatever, isn't the issue, that's never been the issue. It's about how the cast (as unlikely as they may be) gets to their final destination. That is what often separates good from bad when reviewing media. In addition to that, it's important to remain consistent when creating a new movieverse, which is something RPO failed at worse than I possibly imaged. I've explained their lack of this in previous posts, but I'm tired of reiterating the same shit without a single relevant retort.

Your last statement is something I covered as well and it's honestly dumb. Telling someone to just "lower their standards" or "pretend it's good" is not an acceptable counter for debating the quality of a film. Again with Faceoff, you bring up another movie that has no place being discussed here, but sure. Faceoff had great performances from two HUGE actors of the time, a decent script, and a ludicrous but well explained and executed plot. RPO had ZERO redeeming qualities, the only positive it had was eyegasm, which I've already explained as well how fucking terribly they failed at this within the context of the universe they created....

well i guess im saying i get where youre coming from. but i put it aside and im able to enjoy the movie? im not saying me disliking sw makes rpo a better movie. im just saying sw is just another movie to compare it to. they felt similarly shitty but rpo was at least entertaining. i dont care if these movies arent being discussed im bringing them up to compare the movie being discussed with. there really wasnt anything to respond with my post with i dont get why u keep going.

youve stated at least twice that people are allowed to like it but it doesnt feel that way with the way u keep responding lol

look.. id rate the movie a 6/10. thats not a terrible score by any means. you can rate it a 0-1/10 thats fine but i bring up other movies like starwars because say if you were to give it a 7/10 or some sort of good score but rpo a 0-1/10 id be confused is all. plz no more responses that are just the same thing

This post was edited by MutatedBeaveR on Aug 13 2018 08:33pm

As said a million times, there's a difference between liking a bad movie and knowing it's bad, and liking a bad movie and thinking it's good because you like it. Seems like you get this concept, but you also keep bringing up irrelevant movies or saying completely false or mostly false shit about them to make a point, which is never a good sign when having a conversation with someone.

@jade

read your rant. And you nailed it right on the head.

I could never enjoy a movie if i took it that seriously. If i want to watch a great movie, i'd watch tarantino or nolan stuff. nowadays we get dumb downed plots for a dumbed down audience. So how can we get more great movies if most of the audience don't understand it? it seems your expectations are too high for this time. just let it go.

Na, I get that man, but I'm still going to point out at least the obvious flaws whenever someone tries to tell me how great something like this was.

There are plenty of amazing movies that come out every single year, it's just unfortunate that well-done blockbusters are so few and far between.

movie sucked

There's not much evidence in this thread of people trying to convince you or anyone else about how "great" the movie was or wasn't.

The general consensus was that it was fun with many flaws.


You guys just get so caught up with how angry you are about a movie, your rants are just exhausting.

I honestly don't understand how anyone can be so angry at how disappointing a movie was to them.....just let it go, there are way more important things to worry about in life.

This post was edited by stupidkid282 on Aug 13 2018 09:17pm