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Quote (stupidkid282 @ Aug 22 2018 05:33pm)
People can lose interest because of difficulty. When you die, you lose all your coin/the ability to buy a car.



I want you to think about all the things we don’t know. We don’t know how often the race occurs, we don’t know how often each character actually participated in the race.

Z apparently follows art on social media and now suddenly meets her out of the blue.


The race happens daily.

Presumably if you are an extreme gunter like arty and z you participate in every single one you are able.

What's your point about the social media thing?

Quote (stupidkid282 @ Aug 22 2018 05:42pm)
I’m not missing the point. You/we don’t know all the details revolving around the oasis, so it’s hard to discuss what could or could not have happened.


You are very clearlymissing the point... And I guess not intentionally either.

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The race happens daily.

Presumably if you are an extreme gunter like arty and z you participate in every single one you are able.

What's your point about the social media thing?



I was just pointing out that it is strange that, if the race happens daily, and he knew of art very well, how did they not previously meet beforehand.



My main points were trying to clarify issues you had with certain points while providing evidence, you didn’t like that evidence. You want more character development, I understand and I get it, but I can’t change what they did or did not do.

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Yes, because that to me is the obvious assumption.

I do not believe that the majority of people continuously search for the egg as you propose.


Some people eventually stopped looking, yes. However, this is after multiple years, of virtually the entire planet looking for it. Some people stopped believing it was even real. Then Z found the first clue & everyone lost their minds. These are examples of little details that the book did a much better job of showcasing, which, I think, was everyone’s initial point.

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Some people eventually stopped looking, yes. However, this is after multiple years, of virtually the entire planet looking for it. Some people stopped believing it was even real. Then Z found the first clue & everyone lost their minds. These are examples of little details that the book did a much better job of showcasing, which, I think, was everyone’s initial point.



Okay, well I pointed out in my very first post that I have not read the book and all discussion was referring to what the movie did or did not offer.

The book, and the movie, should be treated as two separate entities.

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Okay, well I pointed out in my very first post that I have not read the book and all discussion was referring to what the movie did or did not offer.

The book, and the movie, should be treated as two separate entities.


No one said to treat them as the same, obviously they are different. The point is that certain things are different when they don't need to be, and the change just serves to make the story worse.

Like the movie didn't NEED to have a situation where everyone had known about the first key for years and not being able to obtain it. The movie could have easily started with Z solving the first puzzle for the key, like I said.

I'm not upset they changed things, I'm upset they changed things to this that are blatantly worse and have no actual propose for the change.
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No one said to treat them as the same, obviously they are different. The point is that certain things are different when they don't need to be, and the change just serves to make the story worse.

Like the movie didn't NEED to have a situation where everyone had known about the first key for years and not being able to obtain it. The movie could have easily started with Z solving the first puzzle for the key, like I said.

I'm not upset they changed things, I'm upset they changed things to this that are blatantly worse and have no actual propose for the change.


I agree with you. However, the more I start to see movies that pull that crap, the more I think there is a purpose to it, rather than just bad writing.

When I see what kind of shows my mom watches (bad shows) and point out the flaws, her reaction bewilders me. She doesn't seem to be phased at all by the plot errors. In fact, she almost enjoys that the fact that the plot just throws fancy events at her to keep her interest. She wants to be absolved of the responsibility of paying attention to the details.

In a show with the nuance of Breaking Bad (i.e. a good show) the audience needs to pay attention to the dialogue to understand the brilliance. But something like RP1 actively lures viewers to turn their brain off and not notice the mistakes. It's almost as if the movie is providing a service to them by giving them an excuse to avoid thinking for 2 hours.

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Quote (Blah58 @ 22 Aug 2018 20:42)
The race happens daily.


The only thing I thought was unusual is that no one tried driving backwards yet for so long. Or is it just me that gets bored of racing games after a few days and tries weird shit? With so many people playing this could've been discovered even by accident.
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The only thing I thought was unusual is that no one tried driving backwards yet for so long. Or is it just me that gets bored of racing games after a few days and tries weird shit? With so many people playing this could've been discovered even by accident.


Which was my point. It's absolutely fucking insane that no one tried this, especially when probably billions of people at least competed in the first few races.

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I agree with you. However, the more I start to see movies that pull that crap, the more I think there is a purpose to it, rather than just bad writing.

When I see what kind of shows my mom watches (bad shows) and point out the flaws, her reaction bewilders me. She doesn't seem to be phased at all by the plot errors. In fact, she almost enjoys that the fact that the plot just throws fancy events at her to keep her interest. She wants to be absolved of the responsibility of paying attention to the details.

In a show with the nuance of Breaking Bad (i.e. a good show) the audience needs to pay attention to the dialogue to understand the brilliance. But something like RP1 actively lures viewers to turn their brain off and not notice the mistakes. It's almost as if the movie is providing a service to them by giving them an excuse to avoid thinking for 2 hours.


I honestly don't know if it's a conscious decision by some writers/directors, or if they've just found success with braindead mediocrity and now they legitmately believe that's what makes a good movie. I dont think Spielberg is trying to make shit, but he clearly is lol.

You're right though, people love bad movies with gaping plot holes, no development, horrible characters and over the top CGI pandering.

My favorite giant fuck you to the audience's intelligence is how they CONSTANTLY talk about and reference how important the 80s is and turn around and make the majority of pandering bullshit from our time lol. This is such an obvious fuck you to anyone who's been kinda paying attention, but instead people just eat this shit up.
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Which was my point. It's absolutely fucking insane that no one tried this, especially when probably billions of people at least competed in the first few races.



I honestly don't know if it's a conscious decision by some writers/directors, or if they've just found success with braindead mediocrity and now they legitmately believe that's what makes a good movie. I dont think Spielberg is trying to make shit, but he clearly is lol.

You're right though, people love bad movies with gaping plot holes, no development, horrible characters and over the top CGI pandering.

My favorite giant fuck you to the audience's intelligence is how they CONSTANTLY talk about and reference how important the 80s is and turn around and make the majority of pandering bullshit from our time lol. This is such an obvious fuck you to anyone who's been kinda paying attention, but instead people just eat this shit up.



The race has a clear finish line, so I don’t find it that outrageous that no one tried to go backwards, especially when there is a wall.



I would be willing to bet that the majority of movie goers don’t think too deeply about movies, and don’t see it as a hobby but more for entertainment, something to do or watch.

It’s not an excuse for bad movies to continually be produced, but there are certainly different levels of “care” when it comes to the audience.

You have a high level of care, and there is nothing wrong with that, however joe smo and his wife/kids going to see the latest marvel movie may not even care half as much as to the quality of the movie.

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The race has a clear finish line, so I don’t find it that outrageous that no one tried to go backwards, especially when there is a wall.



I would be willing to bet that the majority of movie goers don’t think too deeply about movies, and don’t see it as a hobby but more for entertainment, something to do or watch.

It’s not an excuse for bad movies to continually be produced, but there are certainly different levels of “care” when it comes to the audience.

You have a high level of care, and there is nothing wrong with that, however joe smo and his wife/kids going to see the latest marvel movie may not even care half as much as to the quality of the movie.


Not an excuse for shit production.

That's like saying "well our vehicles only spontaneously explode randomly 5% of the time so most people will be ok"

I'm fine with "I don't like the movie because I didn't enjoy the story" or whatever but like the amount of bad writing, bad character interactions, non-existent character development, and plot holes that ready player one has is just infuriating for a multi million dollar production.

You compare it to the Marvel movies, and you might like them, you might not, but at least they have consistently good production quality.

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