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Jun 29 2014 04:30am
Quote (jshade @ Jun 29 2014 02:04am)
yeah as you already highlighted, it will be a completely different story when you try it solo. You wanted challenging UT runs and this is taking the easy way out. far too easy with a barb supporting you howling and stunning and giving shout & bo. Nice start though.

post the vid when you do UT and the mini-ubers solo, should be fun.


I don't want to agree that this was easy way, even with a barb doing his job perfectly.
It took A LOT of preparation and planning and even two failed attempts to make this look easy, so this was still 'challenging' in my opinion, especially after seeing how 'geared' summoners can just summon their army and mindlessly crush all the ubers.
Anyway, ubers solo will be the real nightmare :)
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Jun 29 2014 04:39am
Will give a try when back home. With a different approach of Trang's necro however...
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Jun 29 2014 04:48am
Quote (feanur @ Jun 29 2014 12:39pm)
Will give a try when back home. With a different approach of Trang's necro however...


Nice, very interested to see it! :)
Myself I will be muling a torch that I have found in my previous runs, respecing for more vitality and trying it to do it solo at some point today.
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Jun 29 2014 07:28am
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I don't want to agree that this was easy way, even with a barb doing his job perfectly.
It took A LOT of preparation and planning and even two failed attempts to make this look easy, so this was still 'challenging' in my opinion, especially after seeing how 'geared' summoners can just summon their army and mindlessly crush all the ubers.
Anyway, ubers solo will be the real nightmare :)


I disagree. it's too easy with a barb. It MUST be done solo to have validity otherwise why not just have a smiter go in with you? Post again without a support char and challenge yourself without barb bo and shout giving mass def/life and without howl on summons/mobs meaning you must deal with that issue too which is actually the main challenge of UT, the main bosses themselves are actually the easy part. then we'll see how difficult it is and if in fact it's even possible. With enough +skills and a teleport amu it should be imo.

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Jun 29 2014 07:57am
Quote (jshade @ Jun 29 2014 09:28am)
I disagree. it's too easy with a barb. It MUST be done solo to have validity otherwise why not just have a smiter go in with you?  Post again without a support char and challenge yourself without barb bo and shout giving mass def/life and without howl on summons/mobs meaning you must deal with that issue too which is actually the main challenge of UT, the main bosses themselves are actually the easy part. then we'll see how difficult it is and if in fact it's even possible. With enough +skills and a teleport amu it should be imo.


In what world does a smiter equal a warcry barb? WC barbs control mobs, smiters are single target characters. It was not "too easy", it was a struggle to make this setup work well. Poison immunity and low chance to hit on the merc(the only source of O/W) made is very difficult for meph and Lilith if conditions were not perfect.

We're not looking at a character with Beast and Pride with damage that can counteract the regen of ubers. With terror and bonewalls Agguh could zone out mobs without great difficulty. This was a test run and an accomplishment. You points are invalid with your foolish comparisons and lack of even watching the video in full(he has a tele ammy already....).

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Jun 29 2014 08:00am
Quote (mysticsword353 @ Jun 29 2014 02:57pm)
In what world does a smiter equal a warcry barb? WC barbs control mobs, smiters are single target characters. It was not "too easy", it was a struggle to make this setup work well. Poison immunity and low chance to hit on the merc(the only source of O/W) made is very difficult for meph and Lilith if conditions were not perfect.

We're not looking at a character with Beast and Pride with damage that can counteract the regen of ubers. With terror and bonewalls Agguh could zone out mobs without great difficulty. This was a test run and an accomplishment. You points are invalid with your foolish comparisons and lack of even watching the video in full(he has a tele ammy already....).


I saw the tele ammy which is why I mentioned it. As I said, it's a test run. now for it to be valid it needs to be done with support chars making it much easier.
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Jun 29 2014 08:02am
Quote (jshade @ Jun 29 2014 03:28pm)
I disagree. it's too easy with a barb. It MUST be done solo to have validity otherwise why not just have a smiter go in with you?  Post again without a support char and challenge yourself without barb bo and shout giving mass def/life and without howl on summons/mobs meaning you must deal with that issue too which is actually the main challenge of UT, the main bosses themselves are actually the easy part. then we'll see how difficult it is and if in fact it's even possible. With enough +skills and a teleport amu it should be imo.


Not even going to argue with your 'arguments', just will repeat what I said earlier, the main goal of these my characters is doing ubers solo. The runs with war cry barb are done just to warm up/scout the things out.
Hope this makes you feel better.
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Jun 29 2014 08:05am
leave jshade. He made the profil ONLY to rage and flame and start discussions. if you see him post in your or any topic. Let him post, ignore 100% and move on. It is a ignorant kid.
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Jun 29 2014 08:05am
Quote (Agguh @ Jun 29 2014 03:02pm)
Not even going to argue with your 'arguments', just will repeat what I said earlier, the main goal of these my characters is doing ubers solo. The runs with war cry barb are done just to warm up/scout the things out.
Hope this makes you feel better.


yup. will be a good challenge. gl mate.
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Jun 29 2014 08:10am
Quote (Itsjustpain @ Jun 29 2014 10:05am)
leave jshade. He made the profil ONLY to rage and flame and start discussions. if you see him post in your or any topic. Let him post, ignore 100% and move on. It is a ignorant kid.


Take anything you'd like to do in a game that you consider important/difficult. You accomplish it. Then people tell you it's invalid and means nothing. I wonder what your reaction would be. I would ask you keep your drama out, no one is trying to argue here. Simply responding to claims this was a pointless run. Your post contributed nothing and was reported as spam. Keep your opinions to PM, thanks.
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