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#941
Nov 3 2019 01:42pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 3 2019 01:37pm)
same as endlesscry: just because YOU live in a world where everything has to be either black or white, doesn't mean that's true for everyone else. literally no one said that jefferson's ideas were all shit because he raped his slave girl. that's a strawman you committed to because someone slammed ivanka's pathetic deflection attempt.

and no, there is no consensual sexual relationship between a slave girl and her master, just like there is none between a student and a teacher, or a girl and her father - no matter what kind of ridiculous excuses you want to make in order to whitewash his legacy...


Argues the world isn't black or white

Continues in typical fender style by making a black-white assessment :wacko:
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Nov 3 2019 02:01pm
it's really funny how we got here: blackx was trying to downplay trump's racist actions by making the outlandish claim that we would find similar things (systematic racial discrimination, genuinely held racist beliefs) on most people if we just looked closely enough - without giving a single example for it, and completely ignoring the vast amount of public figures that have been in the spotlight for decades and who unsurprisingly did not act in similar fashion or made similar statements.

when i then pointed to the fact that ivanka made an equally shitty excuse, triggered cultists went all-in on the 'you're trying to destroy the founding father's legacy' narrative, just because i don't subscribe to rape and slavery apologists' whitewashing of history - seriously, wtf?!
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Nov 3 2019 02:15pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 3 2019 02:01pm)
it's really funny how we got here: blackx was trying to downplay trump's racist actions by making the outlandish claim that we would find similar things (systematic racial discrimination, genuinely held racist beliefs) on most people if we just looked closely enough - without giving a single example for it, and completely ignoring the vast amount of public figures that have been in the spotlight for decades and who unsurprisingly did not act in similar fashion or made similar statements.

when i then pointed to the fact that ivanka made an equally shitty excuse, triggered cultists went all-in on the 'you're trying to destroy the founding father's legacy' narrative, just because i don't subscribe to rape and slavery apologists' whitewashing of history - seriously, wtf?!


I mean, post #922 highlights a pretty damning case of racism/bigotry. Given we were to scrutinize it the same way you obsess with Trump.. But this went over your head didnt it? Inconvenient?

Lol at your 'predicatable' (fender tm) defense mechanism in the later part. Just missing to add the fan club part
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#944
Nov 3 2019 02:58pm
Quote (fender @ Nov 3 2019 02:01pm)
it's really funny how we got here: blackx was trying to downplay trump's racist actions by making the outlandish claim that we would find similar things (systematic racial discrimination, genuinely held racist beliefs) on most people if we just looked closely enough - without giving a single example for it, and completely ignoring the vast amount of public figures that have been in the spotlight for decades and who unsurprisingly did not act in similar fashion or made similar statements.

when i then pointed to the fact that ivanka made an equally shitty excuse, triggered cultists went all-in on the 'you're trying to destroy the founding father's legacy' narrative, just because i don't subscribe to rape and slavery apologists' whitewashing of history - seriously, wtf?!


you mean when you posted a pic falsely accusing Ivanka Trump of saying something ironic in historical context when in actual context it was you making that mistake?
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Nov 3 2019 03:04pm
Quote (WiziLiCe @ 3 Nov 2019 21:15)
I mean, post #922 highlights a pretty damning case of racism/bigotry. Given we were to scrutinize it the same way you obsess with Trump.. But this went over your head didnt it? Inconvenient?

Lol at your 'predicatable' (fender tm) defense mechanism in the later part. Just missing to add the fan club part


i have no idea whose multi you are, and why you feel the need to involve yourself into this conversation, rando - but it speaks for itself that you describe literal #fake news (i would guess about 25% of those 'quotes' are completely made up, 25% don't even have any racial implications, and 50% are literally me quoting, mocking, or paraphrasing actual racists - there is a reason that obsessed liar does not have any actual links, just fake and out of context half-quotes in there) as 'damning' evidence.

the fact that you consider that stalker's fap material as equivalent to the evidence we have of trump's systematic discrimination of black renters, and his racist beliefs concerning an american born judge for example, outright disqualifies you from being taken seriously, so please sit down and take a number, kid...

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Nov 3 2019 03:18pm
Quote (fender @ 3 Nov 2019 20:37)
same as endlesscry: just because YOU live in a world where everything has to be either black or white, doesn't mean that's true for everyone else. literally no one said that jefferson's ideas were all shit because he raped his slave girl. that's a strawman you committed to because someone slammed ivanka's pathetic deflection attempt.

and no, there is no consensual sexual relationship between a slave girl and her master, just like there is none between a student and a teacher, or a girl and her father - no matter what kind of ridiculous excuses you want to make in order to whitewash his legacy...


always funny to hear you, of all people, calling others out for black and white thinking. :lol:

dont you even realize it? I was the one arguing for a more nuanced and differentiated look at the case, while you took the black and white "he slept with her, therefore he raped her and is a horrible person" stance.
you are the one who still considers a pathetic ad hominem attack which didnt refute Ivanka's substantive argument in any way shape or form as "ivanka getting slammed", you are the one who calls a nuanced perspective "pathetic deflection" when it doesnt fit the narrative.


unrelated: there are tons consensual sexual relationships between teacher and student, and also some (albeit admittedly few) between father and (adult) daughter. you're acting as if grown-ups were fundamentally unable to make conscious decisions whenever any iota of power dynamics is involved.

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Nov 3 2019 03:29pm
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always funny to hear you, of all people, calling others out for black and white thinking. :lol:

dont you even realize it? I was the one arguing for a more nuanced and differentiated look at the case, while you took the black and white "he slept with her, therefore he raped her and is a horrible person" stance.
you are the one who still considers a pathetic ad hominem attack which didnt refute Ivanka's substantive argument in any way shape or form as "ivanka getting slammed", you are the one who calls a nuanced perspective "pathetic deflection" when it doesnt fit the narrative.


unrelated: there are tons consensual sexual relationships between teacher and student, and also some (albeit admittedly few) between father and (adult) daughter. you're acting as if grown-ups were fundamentally unable to make conscious decisions whenever any iota of power dynamics is involved.


remember her age, remember the dependency, the circumstances, her upbringing and the power imbalance - no reasonable or decent person would make excuses for that and describe it as genuinely 'consensual' - that's simply disgusting.

and yes, i'm the one with the nuanced take, pointing out that you don't have to be a rape and slavery apologist in order to acknowledge jefferson's accomplishments - while you were still strawmanning about 'the left trying to destroy the founding father's legacy' by calling disgusting behaviour disgusting behaviour.

and none of that makes your original excuses for trump's racism any less ridiculous - even though you conveniently keep ignoring that part...
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#948
Nov 3 2019 05:12pm
Quote (WiziLiCe @ 3 Nov 2019 15:15)
I mean, post #922 highlights a pretty damning case of racism/bigotry. Given we were to scrutinize it the same way you obsess with Trump.. But this went over your head didnt it? Inconvenient?

Lol at your 'predicatable' (fender tm) defense mechanism in the later part. Just missing to add the fan club part


his defense is all those posts are 'taken out of context'. this after taking everything that anyone he hates (which are a lot of people) says out of context to suit his personal crusade against all that is decent in the world
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#949
Nov 4 2019 08:11am
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Nov 4 2019 09:19am
https://twitter.com/PolishPatriotTM/status/1191321758210633731

you had ONE JOB JOE
don't do it don't do it don-
oh for fucks sake joe

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