If I were either of them and you wanted me to drop out despite only showing mild symptoms, I'd tell you to fuck off, plain and simple. A clip of Biden going into a rant about the sheer audacity of calling for his withdrawal could easily go viral.


Things might look different if there was an obvious and strong alternative, but there is none - which is exactly why these two fossils are the last relevant candidates (sorry Tulsi).

bernie and biden would both drop out if dems were smart. neither one stands a chance against trump.

Why should he drop out when he won the ideological debate?

thundercock wasserman-schultz at it again. hilarious...

no, bernie fighting for progressive issues on the national stage, highlighting the political record of the corporate puppet biden, and exposing the corrupt washington establishment as well as the establishment biased msm, is not 'hurting the movement' - that's an empty talking point.
trump such a terrible and incompetent president, that biden shouldn't need bernie to win. otherwise, and i'm going by your 'logic' here, that just 'proves that establishment politicians are irrelevant' - so much so that people would choose a moron, a serial bungler, a racist, coward, misogynist, a pathological liar, a mentally unstable, stammering, horny, corrupt, and insecure game show host, without any values or convictions, over the 'best' candidate the dnc could produce after 4 years of chaos, blunders, nepotism, blatant self serving, and division...

and no, it doesn't matter when bernie drops out - biden will NOT make any 'concessions'. humour me though, what are some examples for such a 'concessions'? thanks to sanders, democrats like biden pretend to hold similar progressive values - and up until that post (which revealed what i always suspected, that you're fully aware that biden's full of it, and his promises are bs), you acted like you believed him, and like he would actually follow through with his promises. so which concessions COULD he even make?

that said, even if biden WANTED to (which is ofc a laughable assumption) - his donors wouldn't let him. the last couple of decades of american politics have illustrated quite clearly who 'wins' between the people and corporate interest.

Even if Biden dropped dead...Bernie still won't get the nomination. The DNC will NOT allow it.
We saw this happen in 2016. The DNC wants nothing to do with socialism of any sort.


No matter what the DNC says... they are "in the money", and there is no way they want to share it.

at best Bernie won a coin flip when he needed a dominating win. the hail Mary was batted down in the end zone, at this point I think Bernie will only hurt his cause if he continues to persist

I voted for Bernie over Hillary in 2016 btw

This post was edited by Giannis on Mar 17 2020 02:01pm

can you elaborate? how would it hurt progressive ideas if bernie keeps platforming them on the national stage? how exactly would that be detrimental? people keep saying that, but so far i haven't seen an actual fact or reality based argument to support that...

Promoting progressive ideas and still getting stomped by Sleepy Joe doesn't give the nation a lot of confidence that those ideas can work, or more practically, win an election.

The reality is Bernie is losing bad and can't connect with any voters over the age of 28 excluding Danny Devito, so I'm not sure what reality you are living in.

This post was edited by dro94 on Mar 17 2020 02:10pm

well what's the current response the American vote has represented with progressive ideas? comparatively to the moderate vote, the progressive platform has underwhelmed in voter turnout, isn't it true? to stay in the race because "well my opponent could drop dead" isn't exactly a confident position to be competing from, especially when the POV is coming from someone who just had a heart attack in the last 6 months

it's basically the Fury v Wilder 2 fight.

people yelling they should keep him in there because he has a 1% chance to win still via right hand. meanwhile he gets more battered and makes it clear he never had a chance.