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Feb 2 2023 02:38am
Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ Feb 2 2023 04:07pm)
False. SCIENCE has not determined that the earth is older than 6000 years. EVOLUTIONARY Science has determined that. Look at the very same evidence AND the evidence that Evolutionists HIDE, the Creationists can prove that it can't be older than 6000 years. The EVIDENCE is NOT on the side of the Evolutionists. FALSE. The MONEY is on the side of the Evolutionists, but that doesn't make it true. The courts decided to kick God out and leave us with this lousy, false belief system that isn't true called Evolution.


I think that the accuracy drops off after 50,000 but double blind studies of carbon dating prove remarkable consistency. Several scientists from different parts of the world can fairly accurately determine how old something is. The results can be replicated by anyone even at home with a bit of knowledge and a kit.

No need to rely on a dusty children's book. If the science consistently and reliably determined that it was 6000 years then it would have held some merit. Unfortunately it's way way off.

The mind of a Christian revolves around trusting at face value to a fault. They will accept anything a dressed up guy in robes tells them, and if necessary will tell themselves lies like fat people tell themselves when they see that cheese cake.
You convinced yourself of a lie, the church has really stuck that hand deep. To jump ship would mean your have to rethink your entire lives and possibly break up relationships. Reminds me of the poor Christian cult survivors, brainwashed and blackmailed to a world that is hard to escape from.

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Feb 2 2023 04:48am
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The proof of gods existence boils down to taking someone's word for it or speculation and assumptions. Sorry bro seeing face of jesus in your cereal bowl isn't going to cut it.
I can give you plenty of sources which don't have Wikipedia in them do you prefer books? Maybe in a form of a poem?


We have Moses and the Prophets. It is they who tell us about the coming of the Messiah.

Also, one question that has never been answered, if this entire thing is a lie and Jesus never rose from the dead then why has the message of the Gospel been going strong for over 2,000 Years?

Nobody has come up with undeniable proof that the whole Bible is a big lie. Those people who set out to disprove The Bible never did come up with anything, in fact the opposite happened where they came to believe. A perfect example is the movie: The Case for Christ.

You might as well argue that the foundation of the Pyramids is utterly weak despite the fact that they stood the test of time.
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I think that the accuracy drops off after 50,000 but double blind studies of carbon dating prove remarkable consistency. Several scientists from different parts of the world can fairly accurately determine how old something is. The results can be replicated by anyone even at home with a bit of knowledge and a kit.

No need to rely on a dusty children's book. If the science consistently and reliably determined that it was 6000 years then it would have held some merit. Unfortunately it's way way off.

The mind of a Christian revolves around trusting at face value to a fault. They will accept anything a dressed up guy in robes tells them, and if necessary will tell themselves lies like fat people tell themselves when they see that cheese cake.
You convinced yourself of a lie, the church has really stuck that hand deep. To jump ship would mean your have to rethink your entire lives and possibly break up relationships. Reminds me of the poor Christian cult survivors, brainwashed and blackmailed to a world that is hard to escape from.

It's not too late


by necessity starting conditions are assumed or presupposed. that should grate on a "man of logic". its astounding to me what some people are allowed to get away with.
perhaps the most convincing argument (from memory) that the world is young is atmospheric c-14 hasnt reached saturation levels.

the mind of the antitheist is guilty of the very same he accuses other of.

"...fat people tell themselves when they see that cheese cake."
(that was funny :)

i dont care what the church says. thats just another bad argument on your end.

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The proof of gods existence boils down to taking someone's word for it or speculation and assumptions. Sorry bro seeing face of jesus in your cereal bowl isn't going to cut it.
I can give you plenty of sources which don't have Wikipedia in them do you prefer books? Maybe in a form of a poem?


naw dude............. your proof of God
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We have Moses and the Prophets. It is they who tell us about the coming of the Messiah.

Also, one question that has never been answered, if this entire thing is a lie and Jesus never rose from the dead then why has the message of the Gospel been going strong for over 2,000 Years?

Nobody has come up with undeniable proof that the whole Bible is a big lie. Those people who set out to disprove The Bible never did come up with anything, in fact the opposite happened where they came to believe. A perfect example is the movie: The Case for Christ.

You might as well argue that the foundation of the Pyramids is utterly weak despite the fact that they stood the test of time.


Pyramids are real we can visit them and study them. On the other hand angels, demons. Dragons, God, talking snake, Moses separating water with his wand, jesus using revive or whatever other nonsense you believe has no basis in reality only in your fantasy.
You throw at me why has gospel been going strong for over 2000 years? I dunno why do Santa Clause and Easter bunny been going strong on for almost 2000 years? Maybe because there is no shortage of idiots in this world? Not long ago most of you nutters thought that the sun was orbiting the earth lol go figuire maybe some of you took up inbreeding like Adam and Eve story who knows. Oh I know science can check that DNA if I was you.

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Quote (TiStuff @ Feb 2 2023 11:48pm)
by necessity starting conditions are assumed or presupposed. that should grate on a "man of logic". its astounding to me what some people are allowed to get away with.
perhaps the most convincing argument (from memory) that the world is young is atmospheric c-14 hasnt reached saturation levels.

the mind of the antitheist is guilty of the very same he accuses other of.

"...fat people tell themselves when they see that cheese cake."
(that was funny :)

i dont care what the church says. thats just another bad argument on your end.



naw dude............. your proof of God


Word salad isn't an argument.
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Word salad isn't an argument.


thats weak dude
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Quote (addone @ Feb 2 2023 10:36pm)
Pyramids are real we can visit them and study them. On the other hand angels, demons. Dragons, God, talking snake, Moses separating water with his wand, jesus using revive or whatever other nonsense you believe has no basis in reality only in your fantasy.
You throw at me why has gospel been going strong for over 2000 years? I dunno why do Santa Clause and Easter bunny been going strong on for almost 2000 years? Maybe because there is no shortage of idiots in this world? Not long ago most of you nutters thought that the sun was orbiting the earth lol go figuire maybe some of you took up inbreeding like Adam and Eve story who knows. Oh I know science can check that DNA if I was you.


*I dunno*

Best answer you could have given.

In my experience, the issue has never been about whether God exists or not. You already know that he does, despite you saying otherwise.

The real issue is that you do not want to submit your life to God. You fear verses like Colossians 1:15-20.

The Supremacy of the Son of God

"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross."

Those verses say that Jesus has Supremacy and Authority over EVERYTHING. This includes you. The truth is that you do not want to submit your life to Jesus. You want to be the god of your own life and you do not want Jesus to be the God of your life.

This fear shows itself in the form of coming up with any excuse not to submit your life to Him. You may say that there is no proof of God but you and I both know that you already believe that God exists, of that there is no issue.

The next layer of excuse is trying to paint God as evil or not knowing what He is doing. This shows itself in the form of discrediting Bible Verses, in any way possible.

Zooming into Colossians 1:17-18

"He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy."

That is what so many people have a problem with, they do not like being told that Jesus is their Master and that he is LORD over their lives. Reading that strikes a nerve doesn't it? That is the real issue at hand.
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Quote (CPK001 @ Feb 3 2023 10:13pm)
*I dunno*

Best answer you could have given.

In my experience, the issue has never been about whether God exists or not. You already know that he does, despite you saying otherwise.

The real issue is that you do not want to submit your life to God. You fear verses like Colossians 1:15-20.

The Supremacy of the Son of God

"The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross."

Those verses say that Jesus has Supremacy and Authority over EVERYTHING. This includes you. The truth is that you do not want to submit your life to Jesus. You want to be the god of your own life and you do not want Jesus to be the God of your life.

This fear shows itself in the form of coming up with any excuse not to submit your life to Him. You may say that there is no proof of God but you and I both know that you already believe that God exists, of that there is no issue.

The next layer of excuse is trying to paint God as evil or not knowing what He is doing. This shows itself in the form of discrediting Bible Verses, in any way possible.

Zooming into Colossians 1:17-18

"He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy."

That is what so many people have a problem with, they do not like being told that Jesus is their Master and that he is LORD over their lives. Reading that strikes a nerve doesn't it? That is the real issue at hand.


Talk about holy shit! You talking on what I believe now? Yikes!
Presume much?

This is cultist talk seek help man its not healthy

This post was edited by addone on Feb 3 2023 04:34am
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Quote (addone @ Feb 3 2023 02:30am)
Talk about holy shit! You talking on what I believe now? Yikes!
Presume much?

This is cultist talk seek help man its not healthy


tell us what you "believe"
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Quote (addone @ Feb 3 2023 08:30pm)
Talk about holy shit! You talking on what I believe now? Yikes!
Presume much?

This is cultist talk seek help man its not healthy


See how you were taken aback? The truth is very offensive isn't it?

I could very easily back that up with further scripture.
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