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Jan 19 2021 10:36pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 20 2021 03:32pm)
No she didn't. You're thinking of Ted Kennedy, the drunk who killed someone.


The zodiac killer has way more victims.
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Jan 20 2021 07:50am
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Biden, when pressed, after months of rioting, mumbled something about "both sides". His Vice-President actively worked to get rioters back on the street committing crimes. Nancy Pelosi referred to federal agents protecting federal Courthouses as "storm-troopers".

Let's not try to gaslight this. Nancy Pelosi didn't care about the damage or the lives any more than she cared that Brett Kavanaugh was not an actual rapist. I get the desire to not be a constant cynic, but here you are just being taken advantage of.


Biden denounced the rioting and violence multiple times... that's just a fact. Supporting a program that provides bail to individuals who can't afford it is entirely defensible. Why should people with money get to sit at home awaiting trial while people without money sit in jail?

Nancy used that term to refer to federal agents without identification snatching people up into unmarked vehicles on the street.

Yes, yes, everybody who disagrees with you is evil. That's why you need your own evil man to punish the people you hate.
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Jan 20 2021 07:59am
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Biden denounced the rioting and violence multiple times... that's just a fact. Supporting a program that provides bail to individuals who can't afford it is entirely defensible. Why should people with money get to sit at home awaiting trial while people without money sit in jail?

Nancy used that term to refer to federal agents without identification snatching people up into unmarked vehicles on the street.

Yes, yes, everybody who disagrees with you is evil. That's why you need your own evil man to punish the people you hate.


Let's imagine Trump runs a "bail Capitol Patriots out of jail!" campaign. Do you have any guesses on how you would react?

This is Stockholm syndrome in action.
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Jan 20 2021 08:06am
Quote (bogie160 @ Jan 20 2021 08:59am)
Let's imagine Trump runs a "bail Capitol Patriots out of jail!" campaign. Do you have any guesses on how you would react?

This is Stockholm syndrome in action.


That would be substantively different from Kamala tweeting out a link to an organization that pays bail for poor people.
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Jan 20 2021 08:09am
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That would be substantively different from Kamala tweeting out a link to an organization that pays bail for poor people.


Stop dissembling. Kamala tweeted the link because of the riots, specifically encouraging people to bail rioters out of jail.

Now, does Kamala care about rioters? Of course not, she has made a career out of ruining poor lives, and is a living example on why we need prosecutorial reform. But she thought it was the expedient and popular play.
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Jan 20 2021 08:12am
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 20 2021 09:06am)
That would be substantively different from Kamala tweeting out a link to an organization that pays bail for poor people.


describing violent criminals and rioters as merely 'poor people' is such a dishonest misrepresentation to avoid recognizing the validity of the comparison.

Antifa/BLM rioters were guilty of far worse than a few LARPers who strolled into your religious building.
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Jan 20 2021 08:15am
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Stop dissembling. Kamala tweeted the link because of the riots, specifically encouraging people to bail rioters out of jail.

Now, does Kamala care about rioters? Of course not, she has made a career out of ruining poor lives, and is a living example on why we need prosecutorial reform. But she thought it was the expedient and popular play.


From Kamala's perspective(and mine), cash bail is an unjust system. So tweeting out a link to that fund in the midst of mass protests in MN is completely reasonable.

Again, when you think everyone who disagrees with you is evil, you consistently come to inaccurate conclusions.
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Jan 20 2021 08:18am
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 20 2021 09:15am)
From Kamala's perspective(and mine), cash bail is an unjust system. So tweeting out a link to that fund in the midst of mass protests in MN is completely reasonable.

Again, when you think everyone who disagrees with you is evil, you consistently come to inaccurate conclusions.


If Kamala did the same thing for heroes in unfortunate situations I would believe you, but this logic is utter bullshit.
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Jan 20 2021 08:26am
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 20 2021 09:15am)
From Kamala's perspective(and mine), cash bail is an unjust system. So tweeting out a link to that fund in the midst of mass protests in MN is completely reasonable.

Again, when you think everyone who disagrees with you is evil, you consistently come to inaccurate conclusions.


Kamala Harris specifically called out the MN riots in her tweet. The suggestion that this was just some overarching, long-held theoretical belief on cash bail is simply not true.

Bold - Stop demonizing your opposition. No one believes that. People are largely a self-interested lot, politicians more so. Politicians of all stripes, even those who support positions I am sympathetic to, have a long history of acting in an amoral and expedient manner. You have decided to embrace a world with Democratic "good guys" and Republican "bad guys". It's a fantasy. You are not living in the real world.
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Jan 20 2021 08:33am
Quote (SenorNZ @ 11 Jan 2021 14:08)
I think the 20th is going to have some detonations in DC. I would stay the fuck away if I was local. .


my 300 your 300 there are no bombs that go off today in DC
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