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May 28 2020 02:06pm
Quote (bogie160 @ May 28 2020 02:59pm)
The Communications Decency Act is big government, Trump is attempting to restrict it's scope. That would make Trump small government.


seems more like he's just moving it horizontally on that scale
the communications decency act gives the FTC the authority to regulate platforms/publishers, and they have a rule explicitly exempting platforms from those regulations by not categorizing them as publishers, and this EO would allow them to reexamine which platforms are publishers
doesn't really move the big government intervention dial much forwards or backwards since its just an intended application of a law already on the books, and its the president seeing it faithfully executed
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May 28 2020 02:06pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 28 2020 04:00pm)
There was nothing special about it being the tweet of the POTUS whatsoever. If they're a publisher.

By pulling this shit against the President, they flaunted that they're so well-protected that they have more power than the President of the United States.

He's about to prove them wrong. Shadow Banning, banning, editors notes (aka this fact check bullshit) is all publisher work. If that's what twitter wants to be, that's fine. That'd make them liable for terrorist attacks arranged via their platform.

Do you start to understand? The protections they're granted are granted on the same exact scale as the protections of a Utility. If they opt to behave as a publisher, rather than a utility, then the code that protects them needs revisited.

Twitter is dumb as fuck.

Edit: I say they're dumb as fuck specifically because they've directly challenged the 1 person on the planet singularly capable and willing to alter their status. They could target senators, house members, celebrities, political commentators, and influencers with impunity (and have). To go heads up against the one person who can do something real in a fit of pique, man... The higher they rise, the harder they fall.


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Quote (Budgeting @ May 28 2020 04:03pm)
Trump is big government man. He is controlling what he wants to control - what personally impacts him and he weaponizes every aspect of the gov to do so when he wants to. If the concern was valid - then yes. His concerns are only because he wants misinformation to be spread and that he wants these twitter bots to continue to do so for him.

Trump's own follower count are mostly bots.


Trump has balls, sorry you got neuteured
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May 28 2020 02:09pm
Quote (Duckling @ May 28 2020 04:06pm)
^Skinned has an IQ of a rock. he doesn't understand complexions



Trump has balls, sorry you got neuteured


trump has no balls
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May 28 2020 02:20pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 28 2020 12:40pm)
to break up exploitative and corrupt monopolies?
sounds rooseveltian to me


isn't the R talking point.. free markets? since when is R on the side of breaking up big business' D champion that all the time and get called commies..
I forget all rules go out the window to defend victim master trump
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May 28 2020 02:28pm
Hit all of social media
Sweet
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May 28 2020 02:29pm
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isn't the R talking point.. free markets? since when is R on the side of breaking up big business' D champion that all the time and get called commies..
I forget all rules go out the window to defend victim master trump


1. Antitrust laws are bipartisan.
2. When it comes to a utility, support for immunities (and the resulting neutrality and protection of privacy) support is also bipartisan.
3. The "platform" protection provided to everything from search engines such as google, bing, etc. to social media platforms such as YouTwitFace are similar to that of Utilities. If they're behaving as publishers instead, then they deserve to be treated as publishers. During the W. Bush Presidency this was a DEMOCRAT talking point. And I agreed with it then. And I STILL agree with it today.

"Free Market" does not mean a tiny handful of giant companies can monopolize the entire landscape, be granted immunity to do whatever the fuck they want when it comes to limiting freedom of communication and expression, and all's well.

The Bill of Rights is literally considered "Human Rights" for all US Citizens. Twitter wants to play the "we need immunity because we really aren't a publisher" then they have to observe the First. If they fail, then they are a publisher, and should be treated as one.

It's a super simple argument. The argument won out with Myspace and Facebook while W. Bush was in office. It even won out while Obama was in office. I don't know why now suddenly the entire left is trying to claim Twitter should be able to violate human rights in the United States. Seems self-defeating. What happens when the first time you mention something negative about China, Twitter permabans your entire ISP?
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May 28 2020 02:30pm
Quote (theCrossbones @ May 28 2020 03:20pm)
isn't the R talking point.. free markets? since when is R on the side of breaking up big business' D champion that all the time and get called commies..
I forget all rules go out the window to defend victim master trump


Who's the republican?
I campaigned for Wellstone
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May 28 2020 02:31pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 28 2020 04:00pm)
There was nothing special about it being the tweet of the POTUS whatsoever. If they're a publisher.

By pulling this shit against the President, they flaunted that they're so well-protected that they have more power than the President of the United States.

He's about to prove them wrong. Shadow Banning, banning, editors notes (aka this fact check bullshit) is all publisher work. If that's what twitter wants to be, that's fine. That'd make them liable for terrorist attacks arranged via their platform.

Do you start to understand? The protections they're granted are granted on the same exact scale as the protections of a Utility. If they opt to behave as a publisher, rather than a utility, then the code that protects them needs revisited.

Twitter is dumb as fuck.

Edit: I say they're dumb as fuck specifically because they've directly challenged the 1 person on the planet singularly capable and willing to alter their status. They could target senators, house members, celebrities, political commentators, and influencers with impunity (and have). To go heads up against the one person who can do something real in a fit of pique, man... The higher they rise, the harder they fall.


Lol yeah it was a dumb fight to pick. I will only criticize this guy anonymously lol. He will go after anyone, disabled people, dead vet's parents, it doesn't matter.


Quote (Budgeting @ May 28 2020 04:09pm)
trump has no balls


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This post was edited by Skinned on May 28 2020 02:33pm
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May 28 2020 02:32pm
Quote (Skinned @ May 28 2020 01:31pm)
Lol yeah it was a dumb fight to pick. I will only criticize this guy anonymously lol. He will go after anyone, disabled people, dead vet's parents, it doesn't matter.


You're reaching so hard it's almost cute. I wish you were a kitten so I could pet you. ♥
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May 28 2020 02:33pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ May 28 2020 04:32pm)
You're reaching so hard it's almost cute. I wish you were a kitten so I could pet you. ♥


Lol. I'm here for fun.
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