Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2018 05:26am)

You're posting on a computer.

Last I checked the only two processor companies got their start and did all their research in California for like 20 years.

The funny thing is a lot of people will say things like what you just did without realizing California is easily the most important state in the Union.

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Texas Instruments Inc. (TI) is an American technology company that designs and manufactures semiconductors and various integrated circuits, which it sells to electronics designers and manufacturers globally.[4] Headquartered in Dallas, Texas, United States, TI is one of the top ten semiconductor companies worldwide, based on sales volume.[5] Texas Instruments's focus is on developing analog chips and embedded processors, which accounts for more than 80% of their revenue.[6] TI also produces TI digital light processing (DLP) technology and education technology[6] products including calculators, microcontrollers and multi-core processors. To date, TI has more than 43,000 patents worldwide.[7]

Texas Instruments emerged in 1951 after a reorganization of Geophysical Service Incorporated, a company founded in 1930 that manufactured equipment for use in the seismic industry, as well as defense electronics.[8] TI produced the world's first commercial silicon transistor in 1954[9], and designed and manufactured the first transistor radio in 1954. Jack Kilby invented the integrated circuit in 1958 while working at TI's Central Research Labs. TI also invented the hand-held calculator in 1967, and introduced the first single-chip microcontroller (MCU) in 1970, which combined all the elements of computing onto one piece of silicon.[10]

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2018 04:40am)

If you split California and ANY of them vote Republican then it tilts the electoral college heavily in Republicans favor, and northern California definitely favors Republicans.

If you deny this then you're just at odds with reality.

Quote (thundercock @ Jul 19 2018 11:04pm)

If you look at the way the counties split, the Democrats would have won every Presidential election since 2004. You MIGHT get 1 GOP senator in the "South California" state but that's still a net gain of 2 senators for the Democrats.

Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2018 09:30pm)

Interesting.

So I guess Cali gets even more electoral votes after split?

Quote (thundercock @ Jul 20 2018 01:54am)

Correct. They'd get 53 electoral votes split among the 3 states given the current census PLUS 2 EVs each for a grand total of 59. It doesn't matter though because the CA Supreme Court ruled that the ballot measure is unconstitutional.

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State election officials certified last month that supporters of the so-called Cal3 measure, also known as Proposition 9, had collected enough signatures to qualify it for the ballot in the country’s most populous state.

An environmental group, the Planning and Conservation League, challenged the measure in court, arguing it posed a “revision” of the state constitution - as opposed to an amendment - that is too sweeping to be legally subjected to the direct consent of the voters.

Siding with opponents for the time being, the court directed state election officials to keep the measure off the upcoming November ballot to allow the justices sufficient time to review and decide the merits of the case.

The court left open the possibility of allowing the initiative to be put before voters in the future, saying the “potential harm in permitting the measure to remain on the ballot outweighs” the harm of its delay.

Quote (thundercock @ Jul 19 2018 11:54pm)

Correct. They'd get 53 electoral votes split among the 3 states given the current census PLUS 2 EVs each for a grand total of 59. It doesn't matter though because the CA Supreme Court ruled that the ballot measure is unconstitutional.

Quote (Santara @ 20 Jul 2018 00:06)

"Original" California keeps its two Democrats, and the two new Californias add 3 Democrats and 1 Republican. THAT is a net win for Democrats. Northern California includes the 7+ million people of the San Francisco Bay area.

Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 20 2018 03:46am)

thats the point: if you split up california in 3 equal-area parts from north to south, then the northern part would have a very low population and a republican lean. but if you split it up from north to south in 3 blocs of equal population, all 3 of them would still be safe (D) states. the dems would trade 2 democratic senators for 5-6 democratic senators plus 0-1 GOP senators, for a net gain of 2-4 senators.

Quote (Ep0ch @ Jul 20 2018 07:31am)

I remember posting a similar tgread like a year ago...