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#21
Jul 19 2018 03:49am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2018 04:26am)
You're posting on a computer.

Last I checked the only two processor companies got their start and did all their research in California for like 20 years.

The funny thing is a lot of people will say things like what you just did without realizing California is easily the most important state in the Union.


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Jul 19 2018 04:40am
Quote (Thor123422 @ 19 Jul 2018 11:26)
You're posting on a computer.

Last I checked the only two processor companies got their start and did all their research in California for like 20 years.

The funny thing is a lot of people will say things like what you just did without realizing California is easily the most important state in the Union.


I'd say that New York can rival California in that regard. NYC is the center of the financial world, and one of the major cultural and intellectual hubs of the entire world.

But California is more well-rounded, with more industry, agriculture and several centers of population. If we ranked the states by how well they could cope as a sovereign country after leaving the union, California would top the list by a big margin, probably followed by Texas and then New York.

Other than that, I agree with thatalex: the main selling point of splitting california up is to tilt the power balance in the senate in the democrats favor.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 19 2018 04:40am
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Jul 19 2018 05:25am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 19 2018 04:40am)
I'd say that New York can rival California in that regard. NYC is the center of the financial world, and one of the major cultural and intellectual hubs of the entire world.

But California is more well-rounded, with more industry, agriculture and several centers of population. If we ranked the states by how well they could cope as a sovereign country after leaving the union, California would top the list by a big margin, probably followed by Texas and then New York.

Other than that, I agree with thatalex: the main selling point of splitting california up is to tilt the power balance in the senate in the democrats favor.


Tilts the electoral college to republicans so won't happen
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Jul 19 2018 05:33am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2018 06:25am)
Tilts the electoral college to republicans so won't happen


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Jul 19 2018 06:40am
Quote (Santara @ Jul 19 2018 05:33am)
bwahahaha


If you split California and ANY of them vote Republican then it tilts the electoral college heavily in Republicans favor, and northern California definitely favors Republicans.

If you deny this then you're just at odds with reality.
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Jul 19 2018 07:50am
Quote (Thor123422 @ 19 Jul 2018 04:26)
You're posting on a computer.

Last I checked the only two processor companies got their start and did all their research in California for like 20 years.

The funny thing is a lot of people will say things like what you just did without realizing California is easily the most important state in the Union.



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Jul 19 2018 08:16am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2018 05:40am)
If you split California and ANY of them vote Republican then it tilts the electoral college heavily in Republicans favor, and northern California definitely favors Republicans.

If you deny this then you're just at odds with reality.


This is correct

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Jul 19 2018 08:18am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2018 07:40am)
If you split California and ANY of them vote Republican then it tilts the electoral college heavily in Republicans favor, and northern California definitely favors Republicans.

If you deny this then you're just at odds with reality.


This is correct. Democrats will never let California split and risk that automatic 55 (D) electoral college votes every 4 years. Same with New York's 29.

If the powers at be in California actually split the state, it would potentially be a huge blow to their agenda.
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Jul 19 2018 09:32am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2018 05:40am)
If you split California and ANY of them vote Republican then it tilts the electoral college heavily in Republicans favor, and northern California definitely favors Republicans.

If you deny this then you're just at odds with reality.



Yep. Draper is a major conservative donor. The plan is designed to give Republicans 4 senate seats and two more safe/swing electoral college victories.
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Jul 19 2018 04:06pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 19 2018 07:40am)
If you split California and ANY of them vote Republican then it tilts the electoral college heavily in Republicans favor, and northern California definitely favors Republicans.

If you deny this then you're just at odds with reality.


"Original" California keeps its two Democrats, and the two new Californias add 3 Democrats and 1 Republican. THAT is a net win for Democrats. Northern California includes the 7+ million people of the San Francisco Bay area.

This post was edited by Santara on Jul 19 2018 04:08pm
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