Quote (Thor123422 @ Aug 16 2018 01:45pm)
"I don't see any other explanation " is not evidence for the one you can see.
There are Hindus who see no other explanation but Vishnu, Muslims who see no other but Mohammed, etc.
Do you understand why what you said isn't convincing?
There you go, you merely say that it is not evidence. Have you noticed that prayer actually works? Sure, you can call it a coincidence the first 10 times, 20 times or even 100 times. Yet there comes a point in time where the argument of coincidence sounds very weak.
Why does praying to God always work? Whenever I pray then God answers that prayer. It all only ever happens after prayer. I pray for God to give me strength and he does. I pray for God to help me through any situation that I'm in and he does.
What other possible explanation could there be why praying to God always works? Are you saying that praying means absolutely nothing?
You are a fool if you think there is no God.
Psalm 14:1
The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.
Quote (GetOnYourKnees @ Aug 16 2018 05:44pm)
Yes or no: do you believe the socioeconomic systems we have in place today are more effective and/or morally superior to the ones detailed in your bible?
Ofcourse not. The Bible is the word of God. I've seen first hand what the socioeconomic systems we have in place today are all about. Let's take the public health care scheme. I know somebody who had cancer and no public health care. When they went to get chemotherapy, they had to pay absolutely nothing. It was free. Now another person also had cancer as well as public health care. When they had to get their chemotherapy, they had to pay $50 per visit. I don't know about you but that seems quite unfair to me, having to pay the gap while also paying for public health care. It is actually cheaper to not have public health care and only pay the one visit every 6 or so months.
Do you trust your social consensus? Are your morals shaped by the culture around you? The problem with that is the social consensus is like shifting sand. The generation before and after us will have a different social consensus. When you turn to The Bible for morality, then you have a strong foundation for your source of morality. Everyone who hears the words of Jesus and does them is like a wise man who built His house on the rock. The rain fell, the floods came and the winds blew and beat on the house and yet, because it had a strong foundation, it did not fall.
I used to have society as my source for morals, then the storm came and destroyed the house. I had to start again but with a stronger foundation. I turned to God. Now I'm confident that the storm will not destroy the house. I cannot say the same for you when the storm comes.
What do you do when you are wronged? How often do you seek revenge? How often do you judge other people harshly and yet shift the blame when you, yourself are at fault? I've seen it my whole life. I honestly cannot fathom seeing life from your point of view.