Quote (ferdia @ 3 Oct 2022 18:34)
There are actually too many options to list. here are a few:
Option 1 : Ukraine doesn't join NATO as part of any negotiated agreement and stays neutral. Eastern and Southern Ukraine ceded to Russia / independent.
Option 2 : Ukraine doesn't join NATO as part of any negotiated agreement and stays neutral. Eastern Ukraine ceded to Russia / independent.
Option 3 : Ukraine joins NATO as part of any negotiated agreement. Eastern and Southern Ukraine ceded to Russia / independent.
Option 4 : Ukraine joins NATO as part of any negotiated agreement. Eastern Ukraine ceded to Russia / independent.
Option 5 : Ukraine either joins NATO, or does not join NATO, as part of any negotiated agreement. Russia returns all stolen lands.
Option 5: Russia backs out and accepts NATO and other military interests would be parked outside its borders.
Option 6. War continues until Russian resources run out. At which point Russia retreats (see 5), or they go mental (see 8).
Option 7: War continues until Western resources run out. At which point Ukraine surrenders (see Options 1-4) or they continue to wage war (guerilla tactics / terrorist tactic's whatever you want to call it).
Option 8: Accident occurs at Nuclear Power Plant / Sites in Russia Bombed / Russia loses conventional war and resorts to Tactical Nuclear weapons / Russia starts bombing entirety of Ukraine. Millions die. Escalate to WW3.
Option 9: Biden remains in office - War intensifies "allies" fully behind the US, Biden calls for negotiations on his terms / see Option 8.
Option 10. Biden remains in office - War intensifies. "allies" start having doubts. Biden calls for negotiations on his terms / see Option 8.
Option 11. Donald Trump re-elected. Negotiated peace. Option 8 removed from equation.
Option 12. Putin dies of X disease. Pro Western Leader elected. See option 1-10 (what I am saying is Russian leadership at this point is irrelevant).
Option 13. Putin dies of X disease. Anti Western Leader elected. See options 1-10 (what I am saying is Russian leadership at this point is irrelevant).
Option 14. Zelensky is assassinated / remains in office. See options 1-10 (what I am saying is it will have no bearing on events).
Option 15. Ukraine invades Russia. Total surrender of Russia.
Option 16. Ukraine invades Russia. Russia Nukes Ukraine.
Option 17. Nato invades Russia. Total surrender of Russia.
Option 18. Nato invades Russia. Russia Launches Nukes - WW3.
Option 19. Any country, other then the US - seeks to negotiate a peace. See options 1-10 (i.e. irrelevant).
Wow thank you, that was very very thorough.
If all this happens
China wins.
And if the US doesn't want China to win, they will also mention that if the Chinese do not stand on the side of the West when Nuclear war is being escalated, the US will nuke China as well.
If that is the case, this will Trigger North Korea and China to launch available Nuclear arsenal for preemptive strike when the first Nuke is detonated.
And I will be in Singapore by then or Tasmania. Because I am dead sure the Aussies and New Zealanders will back out of it.