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Jan 12 2023 05:26am
Quote (Dazer_Boosting @ Jan 12 2023 12:18pm)
From my testings the only viable feral chaos was vs nec because of your bos. You wanna use chaos always as offhand and fury or fools or cruels claws as mainhand. Since chaos only got 35ias you wont reach 4fpa ww speed because 39ias needed and you need the cham in griffon vs druids.
9 or 10 fpa traplayspeed no matter at all in any setup really (except a full trap claws setup - trapsin playstyle) because in that patch u just can escape too easy mind blast + trap hits without the fhr system so you should always focus on ww dmg and have the target to reach everytime 4 fpa ww speed.

I had back there 3 chaos claws, feral claws / runic talons / suwayyah and all with 3ls 1bs 1df. I used fc chaos against necros (because i still had max fpa speed after golem slows because of bos), I used suwayyah against hdins or amas (with a storm shield setup) since i still reached max fpa speed because of bos, I used runic talons against everyone else since u only reached max fpa ww speed here because of fade.


Yeah, but vs druid you have 40 ias in feral (enough for 4fpa ww) and 35 ias in runic talons (enough for 4fpa ww). I am talking about feral/runic > runic/runic vs druid. And both runic/runic and feral/runic vs druid will leave u at 10 fpa, so it makes more sense to use feral.

I do agree that vs hdins suwayyah/scissor suwayyah/warfist is best, since bos helps a lot, vs amazons it also helps, BUT if they use impale, then Feral is best. If ama uses impale and nosferatu/arach (whatever slows 10 percent), then u are 60 percent slowed, and then runic is best, since with bos you would reach 4fpa, unlike with feral.
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Jan 12 2023 05:34am
Quote (kin198989 @ 12 Jan 2023 12:26)
Yeah, but vs druid you have 40 ias in feral (enough for 4fpa ww) and 35 ias in runic talons (enough for 4fpa ww). I am talking about feral/runic > runic/runic vs druid. And both runic/runic and feral/runic vs druid will leave u at 10 fpa, so it makes more sense to use feral.

I do agree that vs hdins suwayyah/scissor suwayyah/warfist is best, since bos helps a lot, vs amazons it also helps, BUT if they use impale, then Feral is best. If ama uses impale and nosferatu/arach (whatever slows 10 percent), then u are 60 percent slowed, and then runic is best, since with bos you would reach 4fpa, unlike with feral.


If you reach 40ias in the fc yes ofc that will works. Then you need feral claws fury or gg erep fcs mainhand. But I advertised in the basic guide to rt/rt since not everyone can fine tune and have the fg to get multiple similar claw bases just for every matchup. The cost / reward isnt great at all. So the easiest way is get rt/rt and u be fine vs all, keep it simple.
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Jan 12 2023 05:40am
Quote (Dazer_Boosting @ Jan 12 2023 12:34pm)
If you reach 40ias in the fc yes ofc that will works. Then you need feral claws fury or gg erep fcs mainhand. But I advertised in the basic guide to rt/rt since not everyone can fine tune and have the fg to get multiple similar claw bases just for every matchup. The cost / reward isnt great at all. So the easiest way is get rt/rt and u be fine vs all, keep it simple.


if you go for budget build, then yes, i agree.
I was talking more of a standpoint of a high-end gear assassin.
However, personally, i would always choose feral over runic (for mainhand) if i had to pick one.
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Jan 12 2023 05:46am
Quote (kin198989 @ 12 Jan 2023 12:40)
if you go for budget build, then yes, i agree.
I was talking more of a standpoint of a high-end gear assassin.
However, personally, i would always choose feral over runic (for mainhand) if i had to pick one.

Thats fine yeah. Runic Talons and Feral Claws absolute winner claws in that patch. If you reach 4 fpa ww speed (aka 40+ ias on feral claw) then you total fine to do so. :hug:
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Jan 12 2023 09:15am
Quote (Supafool @ Jan 12 2023 04:22am)
Too many people are treating this thread with disrespect. Dazer has helped new assassin players by creating a clear and detailed blueprint to be competitive. He has givin them somewhere to start. Ofc, especially for experienced players, not everyone is going to build their sin exactly the same. That's the beauty of this game. Asking him why he chooses certain setups in certain situations is fine. We all see he is happy to answer these questions. But, trying to defend your build, whilst bashing his, is totally off topic and disrespectful.



I have spent more time than Dazer ever has helping people with sin builds.

The only disrespectful thing here is Dazer passing off information as gospel when it’s wrong.

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Jan 12 2023 04:15pm
Quote (Bendubb @ Jan 11 2023 12:07pm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIV0juiQeYo

i have no idea about this game in detail but what I do know is that it isnt normal to act like this towards someone who is trying to help. I watched the linked video and then saw this thread with his responses and I could see the resemblance. Sorry you are like this Bui, but seriously get help, it isnt healthy to live like this man <3


cliff notes on long ass vid
-guy suffers from some mental issue
-normal looking guy but thinks hes ugly
-girls dont like him and he thinks its his looks
-its his personality that puts them off him
-video blogs cringe shit
-drives around abusing strangers from his car
-ends up killing a bunch of strangers for "revenge"

(sorry your thread turned this way OP, continue helping people)


He’s not Bui. I am Bui. He’s Ukon and changed his name to troll me.

This post was edited by Azn Masta on Jan 12 2023 04:16pm
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Jan 12 2023 04:47pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jan 13 2023 11:15am)
He’s not Bui. I am Bui. He’s Ukon and changed his name to troll me.


ah sorry!!!! this guy really does have problems, makes my post about the virgin killer even more relevant :o
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Jan 12 2023 06:59pm
Quote (Azn Masta @ Jan 12 2023 04:15pm)
He’s not Bui. I am Bui. He’s Ukon and changed his name to troll me.



I’m not trolling. Just reminding people of one of your scams attempts.

Not to mention your Actual scams.

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Jan 13 2023 12:19pm
Quote (Dazer_Boosting @ Jan 10 2023 10:42pm)
I do:

Cham Griffon 102 fcr setup vs dru (hurricane) and Sorcs with freeze armor
Raven 65 fcr setup vs ama and wwsin

Vs all other matchup I dont use any cbf (since for example I play vs Barbs and Palas full trapsin gamepaly 2x trap claws etc and wont whirl them because its senseless)


What's your 65 setup dazer?
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Jan 13 2023 12:31pm
Quote (Supafool @ 13 Jan 2023 19:19)
What's your 65 setup dazer?


Chaos suw
Raven
Fcr dex ring
Highlords
2/20 dex circ (Ber)
Eni
To gloves
Gores (if u need more block then dancer ofc)
Stormshield (Eld)
Arach

Burst of speed 50dr high block setup, you could aswell go draculs instead to gloves and fcr amy instead highlords if u wanna boost ur open wounds +25% to reach a total of 60%ow (chaos 25 / draculs 25 / gores 10) to cheese amas down, which is very effective via quick in and outs because amas hp pool is the lowest of all opponents beside es sorcs.

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