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Taiwan is not a sovereign nation. It is extremely ambiguous.
I will place it closer to a North / South Korea situation at best , but even then it is not.

Taiwan is a core issue for for China

Taiwan is a peripheral issue for the USA.

Americans can calculate their risk and returns. At best they will send weapons to Taiwan to defend herself, but please take note the Taiwanese army is not like the Ukrainian forces.
The civilians in Ukraine can move quickly and freely to countries that are next to it.
How are the Americans and Japanese going to provide that sort of evacuation for the Taiwanese.

The Biden government is using Taiwan to antagonize China as much as possible.
They created Quad
Created AUKUS
And try to get the entire Asean to exclude China in Biden's most recent failed diplomatic relationship.
They are even thinking of including Japan and South Korea in a Nato + 2.
Well lets see what happens.
They are provoking war and using their European counterparts and allies as their meat shields and in the East using Japan, Korea and Taiwan.

We in Asia are really not that stupid to see all these.

It is going to be very ginger issue.
You know how much the Chinese buy in terms of American products?
Nike, Apple products, American made cars, agricultural products etc etc

Opinion polling confirms what the electoral process shows is. The number identifying as Taiwanese has been rising for decades. The split is between those who want independence and those who want to maintain the status quo. The pro-unification contingent is tiny and falling. I mean, Taiwan is a more successful mainland China, and what's happened to Hong Kong is terrifying. The two system policy has failed.

Taiwan is sovereign in all but name. That's what we call a state that has its own army, collects its own taxes, and has its own independent form of government.

Taiwan is critical to the defence of the 1st island chain. It is critical to the defense of the Senkakus and Okinawa, which puts the security of Japan at risk. If Chinese belligerence creates a war over Taiwan, the United States will act to defend its core interests, and it will lead to the collapse of the mainland Chinese state.

No Taiwan is not a more successful China than China in a way.

And Hong Kong.
I live in Hong Kong. I have been through 2014 / 2018 protest and everything that have happen.
So you might want to rethink about the statement you made in regards to Hong Kong.

I was on ground zero and I am one of the protestors that came out to protest in regards to the Extradition issue.
And I stay right next to Victoria Garden which is always where the protest starts.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on May 23 2022 09:35am

No Taiwan is not a Sovereign nation. The Americans and the World have all the time in the world to declare her as one when the KMT government is still governing Taiwan. But they didn't
The United Nations took Taiwan out from almost all major World Organization.
Taiwan, Japan, South Korea and the Philippines is a critical defense for the US not Japan. Please be clear of this.
USA is flipping now because China is reaching into the Pacific and her islands.

And no, it will not lead to the collapses of Mainland China, everyone is too interdependent with one another especially the US and China to have the other collapse.
Just as the United States have to act in her defense of her core interest so will the Chinese.
America is no longer the primacy she used to be anymore.

And that is also the reason why USA is so hard up doing what she is doing in Ukraine right now.
The proxy war with Russia have got almost nothing to do with Ukraine.
They are aiming for China. That is America's core issue at the moment.

And take note China is not Russia, they have time, and they have no problem appearing weak if they have too.

Remember when the left cried about Trump for 4 years citing how we need a return to having adults in the room

*curb your enthusiasm music

Biden is a lot worst then trump in my opinion.
Trump is a detestable to the core, but he can somehow be negotiated with even though if the deal is a bad deal but you can still negotiate.

With Biden Administration , their Agenda is on a different level.

If it's not just empty words, then Joe Biden ought to commit US troops to Taiwan like in Japan. Based on Russia's pathetic performance in Ukraine, nobody ought to be afraid of China beating the US. We can crush them into fine powder if they step out of line.

Richer, wealthier, a more stable government and a stronger, flourishing civil society. If the Nationalists had won the civil war we'd be much better off.

Taiwan is horrified by what is going on in Hong Kong. So are those of us who are familiar with the political, press, and court freedoms they used to enjoy. It is great that you live in Hong Kong, and I'm sure that that gives you a unique perspective, but no more unique than the Hong Kongers who are since fled, or those that stayed and are in prison as a result of falling on the wrong side of the CCP / democracy divide.



Taiwan is sovereign by definition.



It manages its domestic affairs independently, without outside interference. It behooved the United States to give China defacto recognition because of the need to split the Chinese and the Soviet Union. Now the benefits of strategic ambiguity have faded. It is time to recognize reality and help our Chinese partners do the same.

It's a mistake to think that economic integration prevents war. The United States will not willingly allow China to control East Asia. Taiwan allows China to control East Asia. China invading Taiwan therefore means war.