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AlphaofAlphas
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Sep 14 2021 10:10pm
Quote (Mnogotochie @ Sep 14 2021 11:09pm)
well i can perfectly explain what happen here. He drink not enough vodka and the rocket did not have enough power


probably surprisingly accurate
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I faked a mental break down while working so I could take a couple months off for stress leave starting as of last week. it was really easy to pull off considering how the emotions felt so real.
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Quote (AlphaofAlphas @ Sep 14 2021 08:50pm)
10 year is middle of 20 hur dur, your logic is completely ass backwards considering you used an e7 at 10 for an example when the force still has plenty of e5's at 10 years. middle of the year based on time frame literally means jack shit

sus af, give an example of e7 10 years at fort lewis, now admitting to being an e-4 making almost half the pay he used as an example on why the military gets paid fairly.

from someone who does financial support for junior troops on an almost DAILY basis, i can tell you; you are completely fucking wrong about whatever you are attempting to prove with your original statement.

P.S E-4 isn't automatic for every branch, you are thinking E-3

like i said, i don't even think your in the military.


In the Army, E7 at 10 years is very common. Do your schools, get good ratings, get good scores on PT tests. Easy
An E5 at 10 years is a fucking shitbag.

Check out AR 600-8-19 chapter 3-9

The Army puts E-5s in a promotable status automatically at 83 months time in service through the mandatory list integration.
As long as they have completed the required schools and are not flagged they will get promoted at 84 months.
So at 84 months(7 years) you will be automatically promoted to E6, but most choose to go to the promotion board and get promoted well before that.
You can go to the E-6 promotion board at 47 months time is service.

"e-4 making almost half the pay"
Please get out of finance. You are for sure fucking up everyones pay.
I said over 4700 take home, and thats disregarding your lack of basic math that 4700 is nowhere near 'half' of 7000.
My pre tax entitlements is $5123, so nearly 75% of the E-7 mid career.


AlphaofAlphas
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Sep 14 2021 10:25pm
Quote (enigma1212 @ Sep 14 2021 11:14pm)
In the Army, E7 at 10 years is very common. Do your schools, get good ratings, get good scores on PT tests. Easy
An E5 at 10 years is a fucking shitbag.

Check out AR 600-8-19 chapter 3-9

The Army puts E-5s in a promotable status automatically at 83 months time in service through the mandatory list integration.
As long as they have completed the required schools and are not flagged they will get promoted at 84 months.
So at 84 months(7 years) you will be automatically promoted to E6, but most choose to go to the promotion board and get promoted well before that.
You can go to the E-6 promotion board at 47 months time is service.

"e-4 making almost half the pay"
Please get out of finance. You are for sure fucking up everyones pay.
I said over 4700 take home, and thats disregarding your lack of basic math that 4700 is nowhere near 'half' of 7000.
My pre tax entitlements is $5123, so nearly 75% of the E-7 mid career.


What is weird is how the entire discussion was how the military doesn't make enough money and you didn't even use yourself as an example at the E-4 Level, think real hard on why you decided that route.

Lets now focus on how bad your tunnel vision is, Military does not mean Army, Military is a generalization of all the forces. Not every branch uses promotion boards for ranking, It is undeniable that army is no shit probably the easiest place to make rank with the absolute lowest dogshit standards of each branch. So congratulations with that.

E4 Over 2 - 2,450
Housing allowance - 1,908 or 1,518 https://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/pdcgi/bah/bahsrch.cgi ( that's assuming you have a spouse, or kids to support as well, with how you act/react on this forum I would guess your unmarried )
Food allowance - 386
Total = 4,744
Total without spouse/kids = 4,354

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E7 Over 10 - 4,324
Housing allowance - 2,265
Food allowance - 386
Total = 6,975

2,450 vs 4,324 ALMOST half, I knew you were gonna be so critical I would do an actual % here for you. As I mentioned several times; the only thing that matters here is the BASE PAY.

How exactly is 4700 your take home pay when its 4,700 pre-taxes with a spouse? How long have you been an E-4?

You didn't address any of the points in my post other than the simple fact that their are plenty of E5's at 10 years in other branches because it isn't a promotion board to make rank like it is for you.

You've literally lied about several things already to try to prove a point, you are completely wrong on this matter on several different levels; the fact that you can't even be honest with your own pay on a topic about military pay means I am just wasting my time here.

I am done attempting to talk to a 20 year old about world views.

This post was edited by AlphaofAlphas on Sep 14 2021 10:35pm
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Quote (zNick @ 14 Sep 2021 20:20)
Bro i didnt say a good fap in the morning.. i said a good 🤮


Lol sorry I guess I misread that, thought you said yank lol my bad. Wait you know your gonna puke??? I hope your ok bro
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Sep 14 2021 10:29pm
Quote (FF20 @ 14 Sep 2021 22:14)
I faked a mental break down while working so I could take a couple months off for stress leave starting as of last week. it was really easy to pull off considering how the emotions felt so real.


Damn you guys really wanna play those first few days. Like I said I probably wont be able to get on till like 230am, I mean I own the game forever, is worlds first really that big of a deal? Sorry I wont lose work for a game, I just dont see the need, plenty of time on Saturday and Sunday. I hope you feel better man.
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Sep 14 2021 10:33pm
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Holiday 24.09 + 27.09 and no more time for wife this weekend :lol:
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Sep 14 2021 10:46pm
Quote (AlphaofAlphas @ Sep 14 2021 09:25pm)
What is weird is how the entire discussion was how the military doesn't make enough money and you didn't even use yourself as an example at the E-4 Level, think real hard on why you decided that route.

Lets now focus on how bad your tunnel vision is, Military does not mean Army, Military is a generalization of all the forces. Not every branch uses promotion boards for ranking, It is undeniable that army is no shit probably the easiest place to make rank with the absolute lowest dogshit standards of each branch. So congratulations with that.

E4 Over 2 - 2,450
Housing allowance - 1,908 or 1,518 https://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/pdcgi/bah/bahsrch.cgi ( that's assuming you have a spouse, or kids to support as well, with how you act/react on this forum I would guess your unmarried )
Food allowance - 386
Total = 4,744
Total without spouse/kids = 4,354

~~

E7 Over 10 - 4,324
Housing allowance - 2,265 https://www.defensetravel.dod.mil/pdcgi/bah/bahsrch.cgi ( that's assuming you have a spouse, or kids to support as well, with how you act/react on this forum I would guess your unmarried )
Food allowance - 386
Total = 6,975

2,450 vs 4,324 ALMOST half, I knew you were gonna be so critical I would do an actual % here for you. As I mentioned several times; the only thing that matters here is the BASE PAY.

How exactly is 4700 your take home pay when its 4,700 pre-taxes with a spouse? How long have you been an E-4?

You didn't address any of the points in my post other than the simple fact that their are plenty of E5's at 10 years in other branches because it isn't a promotion board to make rank like it is for you.

You've literally lied about several things already to try to prove a point, you are completely wrong on this matter on several different levels; the fact that you can't even be honest with your own pay on a topic about military pay means I am just wasting my time here.

I am done attempting to talk to a 20 year old about world views.


I haven't lied about anything. You are so delusional it's sad. First you said what matters is what goes into your bank account now you are saying only basic pay matters.
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Sep 15 2021 06:25am
This got off track quickly. Glad everyone is having a good discussion though! Just keep it civil!
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