Absolutely NOT disputing it. Dogs always had dogs as offspring - of course. No one ever disagreed on that.
But it still shows your lack of understanding because you bring it to the table as an argument against evolution because you fail to understand that species evolve without there being something strange like a wolf suddenly giving birth to a dog.

Why? Because it takes time and the changes are so incredibly small and subtle from one generation to the next that you cant see a difference from one generation to another.

Its like taking a foto of yourself from age 1 to age 90. You look pretty much the same every single day compared to the day before or after. But on the larger scale of 30k+ days, the difference between you as a baby and you as an old man is enormous.

Compare it to evolution and it might be a wolf on day 1 and some dog race on day 30.000. Its really not too hard man.

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Aug 5 2022 12:48am

should of never did any mocking of dogs make dogs to begin with.

but lets get it out there. you believe dogs would make non dogs if it went on long enough? like perhaps a million years of dogs humping? like? anything can make anything if enough time?

Please dude....wrap your head around it, try it. Its really simple.

I do not believe a dog will suddenly some day make "non-dogs". I never said that.
Why do you come back to such nonsense?

DNA changes a tiny bit from generation to generation. I feel like I am talking to a child. Honestly.

Lets make another child example:

Dog 1 gives birth to Dog 2. Dog 2 looks a lot like dog 1. Dog 2 gives birth to dog 3. Dog 3 looks a lot like dog 2.

Fast forward: dog 100 gives birth to dog 101. dog 101 looks a lot like dog 100 BUT dog 101 does not look a lot like dog 1.

So although every dog looks a lot like its mother and its mother looked like its mother as well doesnt mean that dog 101 looks too much like dog 1, right?

Maybe their noses got bigger from generation to generation who knows? Maybe they mated with other dog races probably? Maybe their bodies grew less fur because they live in an hot environment for over 100 years now, while dog 1had lived in a cold area once upon a time.
Maybe all of this went for on for millions of years and dog 50000 looks now totally different compared to dog 1? Maybe so different that we wouldnt call it dog anymore?

We might call dog 1 an ancient ancestor of dog 50000 now, an evolutionary link so to speak.

Got the concept?

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Aug 5 2022 01:26am

lets try something else
do you think the genetic code in any particular animal has limits or is it limitless?
or
is evolution a grand building up process with no end
or does genetic entrophy/genetic load (mutations) end in non viable information ..a death process/extinction.

Well it has the limits given by the environmental circumstances of that particular lifeform.
So a landbound animal won't develop fins or gills as long as it is landbound, because there is no environment that lets the DNA respond in that sort of way.
Europeans have mostely white skin, africans black skin because the DNA is responding to the environment.
And yes, evolution can of course also lead into dead ends and can even cause extinction.
Happened numerous times. An example would be the sabretooth cat. Its teeth are believed to be the reason for theur extinction.
If a life form dies out in its entirety before it can adjust to its environment, its pretty much doomed.
Evolution is of course not guaranteed to be a positive thing. Its just a process of passing on of genes from mating life forms to their offspring. Not more, not less.
And yup, its basically a process with no end.
But as said, it can have dead ends as well.
Homo sapiens for example went on while the Neanderthals went extinct.
No evolutionary process. They just died, because evolution is a slow process and requires life forms to survive a certain time span.

Some people still have neanderthal DNA in them tho, because Neanderthals mated with Homo Sapiens, so you could of course say they didnt go extict entirely because of that.

This post was edited by Modulok2405 on Aug 5 2022 04:21am

you know it used to be "mutations" was the driving force for "macro" evolution. mutations givin long enough time (deep time) would rewrite the gnome and thats how "evolution" (a new creature) evolved. but now its the same gnome recombination and expression or is it both?

Mutations are a requirement for evolution.
They happen the way I told you.

Breeding by humans (f.e. with dogs or caddle) also has its foundation in mutation.

And macroevolution isnt a thing. At least not in the sense you use it. educate yourself.

You're literally proof two humans can reproduce and make an asexual goblin so I don't know why you'd have such a problem believing dog breeding could branch off into new species given enough time.

so? you believe that given enough time, a million years perhaps, dogs could (i said could) produce lets say a penguin or maybe a lizard? a fish?



you do know adhom attack is just an admission to loosing the argument? was funny tho

If you don't think these are different kinds, or different species, or whatever, then you're just dishonest.

When did a wolf become a dog? Because we did that with just selective breeding. At some point, a wolf gave birth to something we called a dog. It wasn't a dramatic change. It was just pups that were slightly more doglike rather than wolflike. And we know this happened because it was done by humans.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Aug 6 2022 10:47am